Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

[Paratrooper]

Some people say the SMG is overpowered, some say the rifle is overpowered. I guess that's another way of saying that the two are balanced.

[ZaPhobos]

Some people say the SMG is overpowered, some say the rifle is overpowered. I guess that's another way of saying that the two are balanced.

SMG is OP if you can handle recoil and don't mind being spotted. Add kick to it. Reasonable kick. You can't walk and shoot at the same time with it anyway, and if you try then something is wrong with you. Screw adding damage. That's bad. It's a 9mm machine pistol. MP5.

Rifle is OP if you can line a shot and compensate for the kick. Lower fire rate, add reasonable kick, make it no longer a battle rifle. Hitscan and 100% accuracy can stay for the overkill. Lower fire rate also gives more time to line another shot, but leaves you vulnerable for that time, the kick throws you off so you actually have to compensate.

Shotgun is meh because its pellets become cotton candy beyond 30 feet. At close range people just run around you in a circle. If you don't get them with the first 2 blasts, count yourself dead, it's too slow. But it's a one hit kill if you can blast them at 10 feet. They're buffing speed and capacity. It might actually be useful.


The opinion is voiced!

[DrPain]

Shotgun would be a hell of a lot better if the cone of spread was in the direction you fired

Rifle is just too versatile

Submachine gun can get headshots firing full auto at long range

it's all just a big mess, where people are adding buffs and nerfs but none of them are actually dealing with what is overpowered about the weapon

What aspect of it makes it too handy.

All weapons need a downside, and all of them need skill, they need players that identify themselves with the weapon like
"i'm good with the rifle/smg/shotgun"
Because right now you can't be good with any of them simply because you can't be bad with any of them, particularly since players are very easy to hit in this game, predictable animations, slow movement, bright colors, large hitboxes.

It's a game that you can't get good at because you can't be bad at it.

I mean you can be bad at it, but if that were the case, you'd have to be bad at every shooter on earth

[Mehrunes]

Shotgun would be a hell of a lot better if the cone of spread was in the direction you fired

Rifle is just too versatile

Submachine gun can get headshots firing full auto at long range

it's all just a big mess, where people are adding buffs and nerfs but none of them are actually dealing with what is overpowered about the weapon

What aspect of it makes it too handy.

All weapons need a downside, and all of them need skill, they need players that identify themselves with the weapon like
"i'm good with the rifle/smg/shotgun"
Because right now you can't be good with any of them simply because you can't be bad with any of them, particularly since players are very easy to hit in this game, predictable animations, slow movement, bright colors, large hitboxes.

It's a game that you can't get good at because you can't be bad at it.

I mean you can be bad at it, but if that were the case, you'd have to be bad at every shooter on earth

This guy knows what he is talking about.
I am dead serious.
Give this guy a position in the balance team, Ben... Jagex?... Begex!

[Benton]

Yeah he gets my vote onto the weapon balance team.

[Fluttershy]

Shotgun would be a hell of a lot better if the cone of spread was in the direction you fired

Rifle is just too versatile

Submachine gun can get headshots firing full auto at long range

it's all just a big mess, where people are adding buffs and nerfs but none of them are actually dealing with what is overpowered about the weapon

What aspect of it makes it too handy.

All weapons need a downside, and all of them need skill, they need players that identify themselves with the weapon like
"i'm good with the rifle/smg/shotgun"

Not too sure about the shotgun bit, but everything else is spot on.

[ThisFrickinSite]

It... takes like 2 headshots to kill with the SMG

And it's RoF is much higher than the Semi's. If the semi user miss the first shot, he is screwed. Even if the SMG miss the first shot, he can shoot fast and in the end makes no difference.

not screwed, but it the main advantage of a weapon that kills in one hit is killing people on the first shot

If an smg'er can't kill in 2 seconds (new time between rifle shots)... They need professional help.

Fun fact: in the time that the Rifle waits on it's next shot in .76, you can kill them 9 times!

[Fluttershy]

If an smg'er can't kill in 2 seconds (new time between rifle shots)... They need professional help.

Fun fact: in the time that the Rifle waits on it's next shot in .76, you can kill them 9 times!

Is there a prerelease Im not seeing?

[DrPain]

If an SMG user can't kill a rifle user in two seconds
It's because they missed

[ThisFrickinSite]

If an smg'er can't kill in 2 seconds (new time between rifle shots)... They need professional help.

Fun fact: in the time that the Rifle waits on it's next shot in .76, you can kill them 9 times!

Is there a prerelease Im not seeing?

Yes there is. They took down the link, and I'm not going to be the one to find out if they want it back up.

[ChaosTLW]

If an SMG user can't kill a rifle user in two seconds
It's because they missed

RoF invalides your argument. Unless the Submachinegunner is blind, he will hit at least enough to kill.

[ZaPhobos]

If an SMG user can't kill a rifle user in two seconds
It's because they missed

RoF invalides your argument. Unless the Submachinegunner is blind, he will hit at least enough to kill.

Most of them fire blindly anyway, instead of making an effort to reduce kick by crouching and aiming.

[Sniper101]

Hey Putin, lets say we compare the weapons in Ace of Spades to real life guns, eh?

Rifle: Pic

Sub Machine Gun: Pic

Shotgun: Pic

[Becool362]

Hey Putin, lets say we compare the weapons in Ace of Spades to real life guns, eh?

Rifle: Pic

Sub Machine Gun: Pic

Shotgun: Pic

Yep thats a clear description of them hmm i might need another shotgun myself

[Putin]

Hey Putin, lets say we compare the weapons in Ace of Spades to real life guns, eh?

Rifle: Pic

Sub Machine Gun: Pic

Shotgun: Pic

Rifle is so true xD

Smg is ok but it has much lower damage it needs 5 shots in head on far range in 0.76 but the accuracy is true xD

Shotgun no way ! Its to powerfull as a soap ! xD funny soap image I have just so lol'd xD ...

Here my :
Rifle Pic
Smg Pic or Pic
Shotgun Pic