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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby Vortex » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:17 pm

This is what gives AoS that edge, the bullet count, yes I would like some bullet drops but this would need to vary A LOT as I wouldn't want many bullets, as managing your ammo is a key aspect to this game as well. SMG indeed has a lot of potential, it can take out Rifles too, if it had more ammo, in my opinion; it would the most used weapon, as it is easy to mis-manage your ammo and run out of clips for SMG.

Secondly, coming to a serious debate about nerfing headshots - Just go use some bloody cover, in real life (Yes this is a game, but it has some aspects of real life like headshots), if you get your brains blown out by a shot to the head, you die, you don't wait for fucking 5 shots to the head (20% damage per shot) to die, use some godamn sense.

You know it is very, very easy to die from a headshot when staring down your sight as it slows you down and blocks some view from sides? Thats why you toggle it on and off, so you can see where people are, so you can avoid having your brains being blown out. I don't know what game you play if you think Shotgun is useless, because a lot of people moan about its power in close-midish range, and for SMG, you must have your eyes closed, because I've seen people use it as a Sniper except with more bullets being used, hitting right for the head, despite the range or recoil.

I don't even know what the hell I'm reading about sneaking, but crouching does the job fine, this isn't bloody Splinter Cell with Sam Fisher, this is a game based on WW2, not a 21st Century technology advanced warfare based game, where you can go wherever the sodding hell you want without spilling some enemy blood to avoid being killed.

If you die, it's your own fault, I've seen people stay alive in the battlefield for a decent amount of time without dying, because they don't jump the gun and rambo in like Leroy Jenkins.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby Frostified » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:39 pm

You want headshots nerfed? Go ahead, and see a game ruined.
Realisticly (Well, aos isn't realistic, but it's a general FPS rule) someone would die from a bullet that penetrates the skull and shoots through the brain.
And I agree with what other people are saying; We can't help it if you suck balls at this game, and you won't get better if damage is nerfed.
And i'll quote monsteri...
1) Learn to play
2) SMG is much better than you'd think it is, in fact it's almost OP
3) Shotguns are used a lot, and they are a good rushing tool
4) Go play Battlefield if you want to play Battlefield
5) What the duck am I reading about sneaking
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby xEric » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:38 pm

Are you thinking about Tf2 damage in players?
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby lehma18 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:47 pm

Every time i read this kind of shit, it makes me want to hurt myself.
Snajperpro (Or whatever this kids name is), how about you try to shoot and SMG IRL, in the same stance as the characters in game, and then you come back and tell us it's unaccurate?
But i dont wanna it to be OP, but i just want it to be nerfed so that i can run&gun-headshot everyone and herpaderpa derp

If the target is in fog range and you use the smg, sneak closer to him or wait him to come closer to you, but don't come here to talk shit about how unaccurate it is.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby ThisFrickinSite » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:00 am

SnaJperME wrote:
IrishElf wrote:Rifle; Amazing at mid to long range, horrible up close.
SMG; Pretty good everywhere, not particularly amazing with the exception of jack hammering.
Shotgun; Horrible at long range, pretty good mid, amazing up close.

Sounds pretty balanced to me. Also, this is about the twenty seven thousandth "HURR RIFLE OP! NERF HEADSHOT!!!11!!!1!ONEONE!!ELEVEN!" thread. Enough already you fucking twits, this is not CoD. Headshots hurt.


OMG u liar

Rifle; Amazing at mid to long range, horrible up close.
- No its even good at Close combat it pwns with its 2-3 shoot kills and head-shots are much more then easy to make at close range

SMG; Pretty good everywhere, not particularly amazing with the exception of jack hammering.
-Pretty good everywhere ? wow whats with the brain ? At long u will be raped by semi and at close by shotgun and mid semi again. And better that i dont start with the stand accuracy ...

Shotgun; Horrible at long range, pretty good mid, amazing up close.
-Wow you made at lest the last one right

if you crouch with the smg, recoil is almost 0... smg dominates semi at meduim range. shotguns are about the same as smgs at meduim but have the advantage over them at close. semi is BEST for long to short range, but good everywhere.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby SnaJperME » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:52 pm

ThisFrickinSite wrote:if you crouch with the smg, recoil is almost 0...


1. What to let the smg be a only duck fire weapon its a smg and it should have great accuracy at standing

2. And if you think what is the point you just have to duck then no it is a problem here look:
a).Semi can fire from standing smg cant why ? it should be other way a 9mm smg is nothing compared to a 40.cal of a rifle
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b).Why must the smg be a handicap weapon and should be fired near everytime from duck position ? That is stupid and not realistical its a smg not a 50. cal MG

3.And simply a Smg is fired from a bunker everytime from a duck position(and outside of a bunker) making you a poor head-shot target cause you cant "hide duck" like by firing the semi by standing.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby IrishElf » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:11 pm

1. What to let the smg be a only duck fire weapon its a smg and it should have great accuracy at standing


You are an idiot, it does if you control your fire with small bursts.

2. And if you think what is the point you just have to duck then no it is a problem here look:
a).Semi can fire from standing smg cant why ? it should be other way a 9mm smg is nothing compared to a 40.cal of a rifle


What? Seriously, what the hell is he trying to say here?

b).Why must the smg be a handicap weapon and should be fired near everytime from duck position ? That is stupid and not realistical its a smg not a 50. cal MG


So... SMG having the accuracy of a rifle while run and gunning is realistic? Is that what you're trying to say?

3.And simply a Smg is fired from a bunker everytime from a duck position(and outside of a bunker) making you a poor head-shot target cause you cant "hide duck" like by firing the semi by standing.


The stupidity, it hurts... Please just go back to CoD already.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby SnaJperME » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:23 pm

@IrishElf
You are a stupid arrogant idiot.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby ChaosTLW » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:29 pm

SnaJperME wrote:@IrishElf
You are a stupid arrogant idiot.


Yeeeeah,because that isnt any kind of ad hominem,of course...
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby BrosephRadson » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:56 pm

SnaJperME wrote:@IrishElf
You are a stupid arrogant idiot.

After playing with you today in GH3, the irony of this post is almost painful.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby SnaJperME » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:05 pm

BrosephRadson wrote:
SnaJperME wrote:@IrishElf
You are a stupid arrogant idiot.

After playing with you today in GH3, the irony of this post is almost painful.

And more painful that you cheated you made 5-8 headshots in a second totaly impossible.
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby BrosephRadson » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:25 pm

SnaJperME wrote:
BrosephRadson wrote:
SnaJperME wrote:@IrishElf
You are a stupid arrogant idiot.

After playing with you today in GH3, the irony of this post is almost painful.

And more painful that you cheated you made 5-8 headshots in a second totaly impossible.

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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby Derpylicious » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:02 pm

SnaJperME wrote:
BrosephRadson wrote:
SnaJperME wrote:@IrishElf
You are a stupid arrogant idiot.

After playing with you today in GH3, the irony of this post is almost painful.

And more painful that you cheated you made 5-8 headshots in a second totaly impossible.


And you obviously havent played against any of the <@> crowd

I just wish people would stop saying that the rifle is OP; I get killed more often by shotgunners and SMG'ers nowadays.
My fellow riflemen are too easy to spot, until a shotgunner blasts through the last piece of ruin i'm hiding behind and then ... "insert coin"
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby HaloWarLord711 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:44 pm

Tydosius wrote:why not? are headshots not overpowered? are shotguns used at all? do you really find it fun to spend less time on the battlefield?

i enjoy spending time on the battlefield and not getting headshoted at every chance. headshots ruin the game for me.

although im fine if headshots dealt 35. that would be ok.



HEADSHOT

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS IN THE HEAD?THE BRAIN,YOU GET SHOT IN THE HEAD AND YOU DIE OR IF YOURE UNLUCKY YOU BECOME RETARDED


I DONT WANT A STUPID GAME WHERE YOU HAVE TO SHOOT 1 GUY IN THE HEAD 30 THOUSAND TIMES TO KILL



NOW GTFO
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Re: nerf headshots and damage (and better sneaking)

Postby DarkDXZ » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:24 pm

If you want a single person to take your entire magazine(s) (and LOTS of your time), go with it, but you WON'T get any better in the game at all...


And if you really think that headshots should do so little damage, get yourself a pistol (choose your way to do it) and shoot yourself in the head - THEN go back and tell us if it doesn't hurt. Considering you will be still able to get back to us...


Now, go back to your CoD, kid.
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