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Postby Frostified » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Okay, there's this server I was on, and it had hacks by the voxel-bucket full; they were everywhere.
They were ruining the gameplay for everyone, and the server became a horrible server to play.
"Admins!" we/I cried "Please come and ban this hacker/griefer". And we got no reply. The admins couldn't be bothered to move off their sorry asses and moderate their own server.
Next thing that was tried was a votekick. Yet again pure player laziness was displayed here, no one bothered to try to kick the hacker.
And in the end, we end up with one or more bad servers filling up the master-list; hackers can roam free and the server admins can't be bothered to clean up their own mess.

So, while I was on a server listening to Silent Tears, I had this BRILLIANT (imo) idea:
If a server is plagued with hackers/griefers and the server admins can't be bothered to moderate and clean them, we (implying gbl admins) remove the server from the master list.
Server have been removed before, so this is possible. We need to have a policy that tells these lazy-assed admins that if you don't take care of your server like it's a baby, it gets the axe. Bye, bye server.

So, we should install a new policy into AoS that would work like this:

Players can host their own server for Ace Of Spades, they can host whatever map they want but they must comply to these rules:
1. Don't call your server something rude.
2. If players keep reporting that your server is bad i.e griefers and hackers roam freely, and you do not clear them from your server by banning them or reporting them for a gbl ban, then your server will be removed from the master list and you will not be allowed to re-host a server till further notice.

I think that sums up my suggestion, thanks for reading! And if you have anymore ideas towards this then comment beeeeeeeeelow!
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby Howdydo11 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:31 pm

I think that some Admins COULDN'T make it in time. (I have No idea what server) But It all depends on who cares. If it's THAT bad, then Yes. I agree. Do not let them On the master list. I feel your pain
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby TheGrandmaster » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:33 pm

'Ban bad servers' - this is very vague.
Even 'servers that have rude things in their name' and 'have reports of griefers and hackers' is also too vague to be executable I'm afraid. Basing off player reports is a bit dodgy as a practise as well :/
Before now we've removed from the listings a server that was promoting the use of hacks through their server name, but that's about it. The GBL is also hooked up to the master server so that players that are GBL'd can't put their server on the master list.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby MediumShadow » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:34 pm

hmmm idk,interesting thought though, i agree there are some servers that literally are called hacker server i did not bother to even go in it.....but i agree with the guy above banning bad servers is a bit vague.
Also admins need to start enforcing rules against players with rude names .....playing this game with people with profanity in there name and stuff like hacker is really annoying.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby Frostified » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:38 pm

TheGrandmaster wrote:'Ban bad servers' - this is very vague.
Even 'servers that have rude things in their name' and 'have reports of griefers and hackers' is also too vague to be executable I'm afraid. Basing off player reports is a bit dodgy as a practise as well :/
Before now we've removed from the listings a server that was promoting the use of hacks through their server name, but that's about it. The GBL is also hooked up to the master server so that players that are GBL'd can't put their server on the master list.


Interesting, I didn't know that gbl'd players couldn't host servers.
Sorry if I was vague, I didn't know how to phrase it xD.
For the reports bit, people could video the hacks like DE does?
And if mass reports come in, the surely that's enough infomation?
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby TheGrandmaster » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:54 pm

Verifying a video is legitimate, especially in terms of a specific server, is difficult.
Even if we could verify it, the problem generally lies with the hacker and not the server owners. Delisting them because of a bad spree of not sorting out a few things would be harsh.
The main problem lies with the lack of protection the game/server has against the hacks.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby Frostified » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:00 pm

TheGrandmaster wrote:Verifying a video is legitimate, especially in terms of a specific server, is difficult.
Even if we could verify it, the problem generally lies with the hacker and not the server owners. Delisting them because of a bad spree of not sorting out a few things would be harsh.
The main problem lies with the lack of protection the game/server has against the hacks.


I was thinking more of punishing the admins for not looking after their server well enough.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby LinktersHD » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:09 pm

TheGrandmaster wrote:'Ban bad servers' - this is very vague.
Even 'servers that have rude things in their name' and 'have reports of griefers and hackers' is also too vague to be executable I'm afraid. Basing off player reports is a bit dodgy as a practise as well :/
Before now we've removed from the listings a server that was promoting the use of hacks through their server name, but that's about it. The GBL is also hooked up to the master server so that players that are GBL'd can't put their server on the master list.

I remember that server. That showed me how to hack and that what lead on the situation 5 months ago. I feel shamed of myself to getting tempted.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby Dany0 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:23 pm

Simple solution:

Every person will rank his top 5 servers he liked the most(even if they're offline) in the new launcher and those servers/IPs/admins will get advantage in their server list position (not so simple continuation of the idea follows), plus 10+1(server of the day selected by staff) most popular servers will get featured all the time. Based on your server's popularity you will get traits such as live map screenshot, GBL access, colour in server name text, news/ads on AoS webpage, alpha version access, unpure server mods allowance on the master list(things that would make the server unpure: rapid.py in combat, flying for everyone combat, unlimited MG/airstrike, custom gun damage/ridiculous custom guns, not checking if the username/password exists(piracy check off?) etc. basically cheating for everyone), allowance for inflicting physical pain to StackOverflow, distribution of traffic like custom skins/arena maps on the master server, irc channel hosted on an AoS network, "donation" button, more then 32 players maximum, reserving a map for yourself, setting up a sub-forum for yourself, custom forum title for your staff, etc. etc.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby LinktersHD » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:34 pm

Dany0 wrote:Simple solution:

Every person will rank his top 5 servers he liked the most(even if they're offline) in the new launcher and those servers/IPs/admins will get advantage in their server list position (not so simple continuation of the idea follows), plus 10+1(server of the day selected by staff) most popular servers will get featured all the time. Based on your server's popularity you will get traits such as live map screenshot, GBL access, colour in server name text, news/ads on AoS webpage, alpha version access, unpure server mods allowance on the master list(things that would make the server unpure: rapid.py in combat, flying for everyone combat, unlimited MG/airstrike, custom gun damage/ridiculous custom guns, not checking if the username/password exists(piracy check off?) etc. basically cheating for everyone), allowance for inflicting physical pain to StackOverflow, distribution of traffic like custom skins/arena maps on the master server, irc channel hosted on an AoS network, "donation" button, more then 32 players maximum, reserving a map for yourself, setting up a sub-forum for yourself, custom forum title for your staff, etc. etc.

Wow nice ideas!
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby TheSifodias » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:37 am

Dany0 wrote:Simple solution:

Every person will rank his top 5 servers he liked the most(even if they're offline) in the new launcher and those servers/IPs/admins will get advantage in their server list position (not so simple continuation of the idea follows), plus 10+1(server of the day selected by staff) most popular servers will get featured all the time. Based on your server's popularity you will get traits such as live map screenshot, GBL access, colour in server name text, news/ads on AoS webpage, alpha version access, unpure server mods allowance on the master list(things that would make the server unpure: rapid.py in combat, flying for everyone combat, unlimited MG/airstrike, custom gun damage/ridiculous custom guns, not checking if the username/password exists(piracy check off?) etc. basically cheating for everyone), allowance for inflicting physical pain to StackOverflow, distribution of traffic like custom skins/arena maps on the master server, irc channel hosted on an AoS network, "donation" button, more then 32 players maximum, reserving a map for yourself, setting up a sub-forum for yourself, custom forum title for your staff, etc. etc.


And all the other minor, good, servers? Everyone will end up voting on aloha or minit while servers like Sham's and Kiwaw's will end up as "secondaries".

The best solution would be for the community to vote on the 5 WORST servers and have them removed.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby k0mbine » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:12 am

I totally support the "Actually manage your server, or your server is gone" policy, I'm all in on that, I wish more games were like that, but the criteria for a 'bad' server should be expanded a little more.
A rating system for servers would be a great, clean way to filter in nice, fresh, crisp, moist, and genuinely good servers.
In the new in-game menu there could be an icon (be it a green thumb, smiley face, green check mark), a single icon, at the bottom left or right of the screen, that, when pressed, will simply rate the server one up.
And I think, upon establishment of a server, it must have a certain amount of one ups in order to stay on the master list. If it doesn't get up to the desired amount of one ups, the server will be removed, and the owner shall try again some other day, perhaps he can't be able to start a server again in a certain amount of days.
This would be a simple way to filter, imo.
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Re: Ban Bad Servers From The Master List.

Postby Dany0 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:00 pm

TheSifodias wrote:And all the other minor, good, servers? Everyone will end up voting on aloha or minit while servers like Sham's and Kiwaw's will end up as "secondaries".

The best solution would be for the community to vote on the 5 WORST servers and have them removed.


Minor good servers will still be very high on the list, more on this algorithm/voting technique see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE
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