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Remove jumping, add vaulting

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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby Varun » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:10 am

Honestly, jumping would probably be faster, and get you out of danger into cover faster IMHO. I find jumping a life saver when being chased by smgers, and I think jumping would be faster. (I could be wrong, its not like I actually tested this)
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby ChaosTLW » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:12 pm

demo123 wrote:Now for auto-climb haters. You know what, shut up. You guys say that this game shouldn't be too like Minecraft. Does Minecraft have auto-climb? NO! Stupid hypocrites.

Except that autoclimb wasn't part of the game before. If anything, removing autoclimb would make Ace of Spades more slow-paced and similar to what it was before, rather than more similar to Minecraft.
Also, I see no problem with Ace of Spades getting a feature present in other games, if we can benefit from it.

But yeah, to this day I'm not sure if we should slow autoclimb or completely remove it, even because we have only speculations of what exactly would be the results from slowing it down.


@topic Eh, I only support this suggestion if we get autoclimb removed. If not, then /nosupport.
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby Moghard » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:01 pm

+1 I really like the idea!
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby CommanderCody » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:46 pm

kmaj wrote:That, or remove the ability of shooting while jumping.


Or falling at a hight greater than 2 blocks (Walking down stuff (Falling)).
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby Airsoftr » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:25 am

I think it's a decent idea. But I still like jumping more than vaulting. I would be much more supportive if it was more for two block high structures with the exception of mountains. Like if you were climbing a mountain there would be some sort of animation where you would have to climb up the two blocks. But you could still walk up single blocks, no problem.

Overall, it's a creative idea but unrealistic and doesn't really fit Ace of Spades. I feel that Ace of Spades is supposed to be more of a simple game.


ChaosTLW wrote:Except that autoclimb wasn't part of the game before. If anything, removing autoclimb would make Ace of Spades more slow-paced and similar to what it was before, rather than more similar to Minecraft.
Also, I see no problem with Ace of Spades getting a feature present in other games, if we can benefit from it.

But yeah, to this day I'm not sure if we should slow autoclimb or completely remove it, even because we have only speculations of what exactly would be the results from slowing it down.


@topic Eh, I only support this suggestion if we get autoclimb removed. If not, then /nosupport.

How about we roll Ace of Spades back to 0.1? Seriously? That would be so annoying to have autoclimb removed. Every time you had to jump up a stair, you would have to hear that ca-chunk sound. Now imagine a whole squad jumping up stairs. Noise pollution much?

On a more serious note, autoclimb doesn't make games 100x faster. Once it was removed people would just jump continually over the blocks like bunnies. And now we're back to noise pollution. In fact, campers at the top of the hill or mountain could hear you coming from a mile away and just be ready for you once your head popped up.

I could understand why you want it removed, but it would be plain inconvinient and get about a million complaints from the community.
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby Fluttershy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:09 pm

Airsoftr wrote:On a more serious note, autoclimb doesn't make games 100x faster.


Just much, much faster. People pretty much fly over the mountains at the same speed of a soldier simply running on flat ground, with any differences being negligible. The only reason youd want to hollow out a mountain and build a road for example is just to sprint across, but that doesnt change the fact that autoclimb is still so fucking fast.

I dont want autoclimb removed, I simply want it slowed down. I had a whole thread on this a few months ago.
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby ChaosTLW » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:51 am

Fluttershy wrote:
Airsoftr wrote:On a more serious note, autoclimb doesn't make games 100x faster.


Just much, much faster. People pretty much fly over the mountains at the same speed of a soldier simply running on flat ground, with any differences being negligible. The only reason youd want to hollow out a mountain and build a road for example is just to sprint across, but that doesnt change the fact that autoclimb is still so fucking fast.

I dont want autoclimb removed, I simply want it slowed down. I had a whole thread on this a few months ago.

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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby LASTofS » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:14 pm

Keep jumping, add vaulting would get you a lot more support.

To the previous reply: NO, we should have the ability to jump and shoot. Jumpshots are fun to make.

Anyways, we should have the ability to jump when we only press the spacebar, and holding a WASD key while sprinting, then pressing spacebar should allow the player to vault.
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby ugotpiez » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:30 am

No, because this game is unrealistic. Adding realism will be boring, and a lot of peoples' playstyles rely on jumping.
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Re: Remove jumping, add vaulting

Postby ThisFrickinSite » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:08 pm

the only way to remove jumping and make vaulting make sense all the time, is to make it so that you dont have to jump/vault up an incline above 45%. To do that, we need to remove blocks and add somewhat of bends. -1
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