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Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Someone64 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:06 pm

I noticed that when i hold the reload button while shooting my shotgun, it finishes reloading exactly after i finish taking a shot, With that, if I time it right, it will fire exactly as fast as it does without the reloading with only a millisecond difference, thus giving me an unfair advantage. It's like having a no-reload shotty. It would be nice if you guys could find a way to fix this. If you want, I can also make a private video of this and post it here.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby wheelz » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:12 pm

The shotgun is so under used and unpredictable that I dont think anyone minds this bug. If the shotty if ever buffed maybe it should be fixed
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Tek2 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:24 pm

Yep, it's a little broken and should be changed.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Someone64 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Whoever thinks the shotgun is useless must be a Deuce, I get most of my kills with it, specially on last team standing, one shot kills at close range to unsuspecting snipers. It's also good for griefing enemy defences. The key to using the shotgun is your tactics, not your aim.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby ChaosTLW » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:12 pm

Someone64 wrote:Whoever thinks the shotgun is useless must be a Deuce, I get most of my kills with it, specially on last team standing, one shot kills at close range to unsuspecting snipers. It's also good for griefing enemy defences. The key to using the shotgun is your tactics, not your aim.

The problem with shotgun is that it is unpredictable, sometimes it takes 3 shots to kill 10-voxels away, sometimes it takes 2 or even 1 shot to kill at long range.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Fluttershy » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:17 pm

Someone64 wrote:Whoever thinks the shotgun is useless must be a Deuce, I get most of my kills with it, specially on last team standing, one shot kills at close range to unsuspecting snipers. It's also good for griefing enemy defences. The key to using the shotgun is your tactics, not your aim.


"I got many kills in a game mode that forces people into small cramped enviorments that forces everyone into the shotguns natural range"

Also its pretty inefficient at destroying shit due to its slow speed and spread. But you are right it requires more tactics than the other guns (but it still requires aim).

As far as the actual reloading thing goes, Id be happy to give it up for close range reliability.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Someone64 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:37 am

I've also tried using the shotgun on large maps where most people use rifles on. Ever since Ben added the sprint easier, i found it way easier to charge snipers as they find it hard to shoot properly at close range at a person moving so fast. Also, to me at least, stealth is key to using it so no one kills you while you try to charge the enemy with a shotgun. Anyway, the reload mechanic should still be fixed, the gun should only be able to reload after you finish a shot rather than right after a shot. Shooting in the middle of a reload should also cancel the current reload happening rather than stopping hte next one form happening, otherwise, I think I'll tape my reload button down :P.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby xEric » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:18 am

Someone64 wrote:Whoever thinks the shotgun is useless must be a Deuce, I get most of my kills with it, specially on last team standing, one shot kills at close range to unsuspecting snipers. It's also good for griefing enemy defences. The key to using the shotgun is your tactics, not your aim.


But a rifleman can shoot you when he's behind cover and you can't do anything about it, A person with an smg can spray you before you can even shoot. If the person is behind cover you're lucky you killed him with a headshot. All the guns are balanced because shotgun is weak but the reload is good.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Someone64 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:00 pm

There is such thing as sneaking you know. I take a very indirect route and sneak up BEHIND the enemy. I make sure they don't see me and i utilize the sneak sprint and crouch button. Anyway, I hope the shotgun mechanics are fixed soon.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Gorman » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:04 pm

Uh, not to be too confrontational, but is this a joke? Everyone knows you should hit reload after every shot so you can keep firing without having to wait. Everyone plays shotgun like this - I don't know anyone who empties all the ammo then reloads the whole thing at one time.

Sorry but I'm honestly not sure if this thread is the sequel to the "rifle headshots are OP, you just shoot them in the head and they die"...
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Fluttershy » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:07 pm

Gorman wrote:Uh, not to be too confrontational, but is this a joke? Everyone knows you should hit reload after every shot so you can keep firing without having to wait.


Hes saying it shouldnt be like this, which is a reasonable request.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Tek2 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:45 pm

How about the first shell you reload would be slower to reload?
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Bledd » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:41 am

Tek2 wrote:How about the first shell you reload would be slower to reload?


This all the way. I think the shotgun could use a bit of an overhaul. Its just simply not reliable enough compared to the other weapons. You CAN sneak up on a sniper like the OP in today's AoS version but that's only so good and for just one kill. You're better off using a different weapon by that point, anyway.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby XxsnipahxX » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:34 pm

maybe you can keep pressing R. One press is one bullet into the shotgun. So its a little more realistic.
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Re: Bad shotgun mechanics: "no reload shotgun"

Postby Benton » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:49 pm

wahhhh the guns suck the mechanics are wrong the shotgun is unreliable wahh wahh wahh

Tatics beat gun choice any day.
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