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An idea from ben himself

Postby Articsledder » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:48 pm

So while browsing the old news section I found this on the .35 update post.

Also, in the future, I want a registered user database based on a reputation system. Servers should be able to set a reputation cap so only people with more than a certain amount of rep will be able to join. Hopefully this should stop griefers.


Sounds like a great idea maybe you could gain rep from doing things like placing blocks or helping teammates.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby PyroKnight » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:53 pm

That has 2 problems:
1) Placing blocks for rep just means we'd have servers dedicated to rep farming.
2) Helping teammates would be hard to monitor.

However things like:
1) Capturing intel
2) Destroying enemy blocks
might work. However none of the servers are actually run by the game-creators themselves so it'd be a big question of whether or not all servers could remain honest. My guess is no.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby Articsledder » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:08 am

PyroKnight wrote:That has 2 problems:
1) Placing blocks for rep just means we'd have servers dedicated to rep farming.
2) Helping teammates would be hard to monitor.

However things like:
1) Capturing intel
2) Destroying enemy blocks
might work. However none of the servers are actually run by the game-creators themselves so it'd be a big question of whether or not all servers could remain honest. My guess is no.



Maybe it could be similar to how some forums have karma. You start out with X amount and can give and receive it from people and/or completing objectives. That way there isn't an infinite amount of rep floating about.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby bobbotheclown » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:03 am

i still don't like it. sounds like a new type of griefer would inflate the game, and cause players to simply not be able to play.

seriously this sounds like an extremely bad idea.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby Articsledder » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:24 pm

bobbotheclown wrote:i still don't like it. sounds like a new type of griefer would inflate the game, and cause players to simply not be able to play.

seriously this sounds like an extremely bad idea.



Elaborate. What is this "new type of griefer"? I can't take comments like this seriously when the actual problem isn't explained.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby demo123 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:46 pm

Reputation. Hmm... Dumb, dumb, dumb.
This means if you don't have a big enough reputation(level)you won't be able to play on certain servers.
How much of us are against levels(reputation). It would take me awhile to count everyone.
This will just create elitism. I mean comon. Example: deuce 1 says: I can play on that server and you can't. That means i'm better.
Deuce1 says: Comon this sucks i quit.

Think about how much of them good, talented, teamworking, skilled deuces would suffer just because they wouldn't be able to play on certain servers.
If i didn't join Sham's back when i was a deuce i wouldn't be here at all. And Sham's is a realy high skill server.

More than 60% of us here are fighting against levels, ranking and other crap like that.
So we are getting back stabbed by the creator of this game.

Ben ended up being a moron just because he said that.
Is this an another "an admin suggested this i must say yes" like that bullet drop crap or if most of people that are against levels(reputation) say yes to this. Then i quit. Because these forums are filled with trolls, hypocritics and idiotic morons who say "no way coz this is from Cock of Doody" to new players while if an admin suggestes somethign they say "this is awesome".

I don't care if i get a warning for this sentence.

This idea is soooooooo fucking dumb. Birds up.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby Paratrooper » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:56 pm

Articsledder wrote:
bobbotheclown wrote:i still don't like it. sounds like a new type of griefer would inflate the game, and cause players to simply not be able to play.

seriously this sounds like an extremely bad idea.



Elaborate. What is this "new type of griefer"? I can't take comments like this seriously when the actual problem isn't explained.


Someone who registers new accounts and put negative reps on everybody/one single person.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby TheGeekZeke101 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:03 pm

Well, here are some ways I think you could earn rep:

-Being trusted/Loging in
-Starting successful votekicks
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby DrunkenChild » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:58 am

Ima say no, If some one is having a bad streak and getting fucked, This also makes the few hackers look good if their is intel cap and kills. they can just walk around with smg and aimbot.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby IrishElf » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:07 am

TheGeekZeke101 wrote:Well, here are some ways I think you could earn rep:

-Being trusted/Loging in
-Starting successful votekicks


Please tell me you are not serious.

How to put this without inviting another warning from the fun police...

Spend an hour watching the type of votekicks that successfully go through on a regular basis and see if you don't share my views on just how god awful that idea is.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby DrunkenChild » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:14 am

TheGeekZeke101 wrote:Well, here are some ways I think you could earn rep:

-Being trusted/Loging in
-Starting successful votekicks

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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby bobbotheclown » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:36 am

the current system is fine, but i do agree it needs improvement.

this would probably be the thing to ruin the game if implemented.

I can see it now: "o u killed me in a position where you had an advantage over me? that wasn't fair, im gonna lower ur rank, camping n00b" "oh you are better than me? hacking noob. gonna lower ur rank" "lawl i lowered ur rank lol"

bad idea.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby Articsledder » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:44 pm

bobbotheclown wrote:the current system is fine, but i do agree it needs improvement.

this would probably be the thing to ruin the game if implemented.

I can see it now: "o u killed me in a position where you had an advantage over me? that wasn't fair, im gonna lower ur rank, camping n00b" "oh you are better than me? hacking noob. gonna lower ur rank" "lawl i lowered ur rank lol"

bad idea.



Well, that's kind of the point. If your doing something people don't like, they lower your rep. They couldn't remove all your rep in one sitting however, you should only be able to remove X rep per hour.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby IrishElf » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:05 am

Thing is though, the in game community is full of... Less than educated and less than mature people who consider things like the enemy blasting walls away to get at them, stealth, and camping to be bad.

Then you have the problems of potential rep farm servers and inevitable rep griefing. People quitting because they can't play on any servers

The only way I could remotely see to save this idea in any way is if only server admins can give/take away rep and even then it won't prevent rep farm servers nor people quitting because they can't play.

It's really just an absolutely horrible idea no matter what way you slice it.
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Re: An idea from ben himself

Postby bobbotheclown » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:52 am

Articsledder wrote:
bobbotheclown wrote:the current system is fine, but i do agree it needs improvement.

this would probably be the thing to ruin the game if implemented.

I can see it now: "o u killed me in a position where you had an advantage over me? that wasn't fair, im gonna lower ur rank, camping n00b" "oh you are better than me? hacking noob. gonna lower ur rank" "lawl i lowered ur rank lol"

bad idea.



Well, that's kind of the point. If your doing something people don't like, they lower your rep. They couldn't remove all your rep in one sitting however, you should only be able to remove X rep per hour.


or simply be able to lower any specific persons rep once. I mean you can only dislike a youtube video once.

no hourly karma wars, the admins would be routinely resetting karma due to people maliciously lowering them each hour.
one bad post could lower someones rep ten fold, while they could be a magnificent player.

clans wouldn't have tournaments, then would have rep wars.

players would delete old accounts due to people spamming them, and create new ones

this would throw the whole game out of balance.

this is a very bad idea.

if there was something like global admins, who can kick you from AOS entirely for 5 minutes then it could work. but i don't want that because 90 percent of all admins on any game with any server are just admins for the false sense of authority.

note that this abandoned with the 0.35 update.
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