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Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

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Should the rifle be a true semi-automatic weapon?

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Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby Paratrooper » Wed May 23, 2012 2:41 am

Suggestion: Increase the semi's firerate and recoil while turning it into a real semi-automatic weapon. The player would have to keep pressing the LMB to fire.

The rifle doesn't currently hold true to it's "semi" title. The player should be able to fire very fast, but then would have to cope with a slightly stronger recoil.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby DrPain » Wed May 23, 2012 2:43 am

Eh
maybe
It's already got a oneshot headshot, what more do you want
Either way, 10 round magazine
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed May 23, 2012 3:00 am

Paratrooper wrote:Suggestion: Increase the semi's firerate and recoil while turning it into a real semi-automatic weapon. The player would have to keep pressing the LMB to fire.

The rifle doesn't currently hold true to it's "semi" title. The player should be able to fire very fast, but then would have to cope with a slightly stronger recoil.

Ah. Balancing the fast fingers, eh?
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby Articsledder » Wed May 23, 2012 3:14 am

Eh, why not. The only issue I can see is having to deal with people using the semi to take out buildings, or using some kind of macros. When a weapon has no cool down, it becomes pretty easy to create a script for your mouse to make x amount of clicks translate to you pulling the trigger x amount of times.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby Paratrooper » Wed May 23, 2012 5:33 am

There would still be a firerate, though it would be a faster one. A little in between the rifle and the SMG.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed May 23, 2012 7:29 am

Paratrooper wrote:There would still be a firerate, though it would be a faster one. A little in between the rifle and the SMG.

Rifle RoF: 120 RPM
SMG RoF: 550 RPM
So, basically we lower down the cooldown time a little bit, eh?
So... What about 300 RPM?
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby ChaosTLW » Wed May 23, 2012 5:29 pm

MrHaaaaaaxFF wrote:
Paratrooper wrote:There would still be a firerate, though it would be a faster one. A little in between the rifle and the SMG.

Rifle RoF: 120 RPM
SMG RoF: 550 RPM
So, basically we lower down the cooldown time a little bit, eh?
So... What about 300 RPM?


I think that something around 260 or 250 would be enough.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby scarfacemperor » Wed May 23, 2012 5:49 pm

180 (3 per sec) or 240 (4 per sec) maximum would be fine.

We should do the same to the shotgun, increasing rate of fire (semi auto shotguns exist since early 20th century), that would also make them a bit stronger
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby ChaosTLW » Wed May 23, 2012 5:52 pm

scarfacemperor wrote:180 (3 per sec) or 240 (4 per sec) maximum would be fine.

We should do the same to the shotgun, increasing rate of fire (semi auto shotguns exist since early 20th century), that would also make them a bit stronger

The model the Shotgun is modeled after, a 60s R870, is a pump-action shotgun, not a semi-auto.
Hei, small idea here: If you want to change the shotgun into a semi-auto shotgun, what about Ben making a new model for it, maybe something somewhat like what happened with the Semi?
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby Putin » Wed May 23, 2012 6:02 pm

No no no ! Its now RoF is like of a Pistol and you want to make its shot even faster !? My opinion go starve cause of this idea.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby ChaosTLW » Wed May 23, 2012 6:07 pm

Putin wrote:No no no ! Its now RoF is like of a Pistol and you want to make its shot even faster !? My opinion go starve cause of this idea.

Of course it will have enormous recoil to compensate that out, so you can't just keep shooting at the enemy and get the kill. Doing that would only make you empty your magazine faster, killing you effectively.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed May 23, 2012 6:08 pm

Wellllll... It will be slow if your fingers it's not good enough.
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby Putin » Wed May 23, 2012 6:26 pm

ChaosTLW wrote:
Putin wrote:No no no ! Its now RoF is like of a Pistol and you want to make its shot even faster !? My opinion go starve cause of this idea.

Of course it will have enormous recoil to compensate that out, so you can't just keep shooting at the enemy and get the kill. Doing that would only make you empty your magazine faster, killing you effectively.

^ In one point(long range) ok but think about Close and Mid Range combat it would be a nightmare , having a rifle with 100dmg-H and 49dmg-Body have Rate of fire near the same as a smg or a simple pistol with 100% acc. This idea is Horrible nothing more and he got luck that i will behave my self cause I would spam a 1000 charters flame post here about his brain , dog , mom and all together !
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed May 23, 2012 6:28 pm

Putin wrote:
ChaosTLW wrote:
Putin wrote:No no no ! Its now RoF is like of a Pistol and you want to make its shot even faster !? My opinion go starve cause of this idea.

Of course it will have enormous recoil to compensate that out, so you can't just keep shooting at the enemy and get the kill. Doing that would only make you empty your magazine faster, killing you effectively.

^ In one point(long range) ok but think about Close and Mid Range combat it would be a nightmare , having a rifle with 100dmg-H and 49dmg-Body have Rate of fire near the same as a smg or a simple pistol with 100% acc. This idea is Horrible nothing more and he got luck that i will behave my self cause I would spam a 1000 charters flame post here about his brain , dog , mom and all together !

Remind you, SMG can flush everyone nearby within half a second.....
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Re: Turn the Rifle into a true "Semi-automatic"

Postby Putin » Wed May 23, 2012 6:40 pm

^ Sure we all knew the problems that semi makes now with its hell accuracy at Close and mid combat.
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