Why Clans FAIL and What YOU Can Do To Prevent That

by **USABxBOOYO** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:46 pm

USAB has 42 members and it's doing fine. I believe the reason for this is a good leadership system and we only accept people we believe will be quality members.

by **Conduit** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:58 pm

I'm not saying all big clans, this is just a perspective.

by **CommanderCody** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Hey Booyo,do you know why AGAN didnt fail,i mean we had a clan hopper (limited wiki) and through friendship we lured him into a secure place in AGAN.we usually go on servers and observe players,then look at their atuchude.
We ask for a forum account and they make one.

A famous guy on the Aloha servers plainly for the reason being there,is Pooper Scooper.
Nice guy,his new name is {AGAN} Pooper,and his forum name is Pooper.
Please comment Booyo,im not sure how we did it :P

by **GreaseMonkey** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:14 am

Moving past all this drama, here's a suggestion I can make:

Overdoing your hierarchy.

Personally, I believe that if a clan starts out with anything more than "leadership", "members", and "preliminary recruits", it's overdoing it. Heck, <@> doesn't even have the "leadership" rank (there's a de-facto leader but that's it).

This might also be regarded as "Overhyping your clan", which could cover more than just this.

by **kmaj** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:07 pm

GreaseMonkey wrote:Moving past all this drama, here's a suggestion I can make:

Overdoing your hierarchy.

Personally, I believe that if a clan starts out with anything more than "leadership", "members", and "preliminary recruits", it's overdoing it. Heck, <@> doesn't even have the "leadership" rank (there's a de-facto leader but that's it).

This might also be regarded as "Overhyping your clan", which could cover more than just this.

Yes. I see lots of clans with more ranks than members, it's a mess.

by **SLoW** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:35 pm

Conduit wrote:How about keeping a healthy number of members?
A good number of members can be around 20, right? And if you let a clan get so big, it would be harder to keep a grasp of everything and soon it would quickly fall apart under its own weight.
Trust me on this. :\

I get where you're coming from here, but I'd disagree somewhat. Like Booyo said, a big clan CAN work (and does in USAB's case), but I think it's important to find people you can count on to help take some of the burden. I think a clan with a single leader and no other people helping to manage/organize will fail fairly quickly as the leader gets swamped. If you have people you trust who can help you lead, I dont really see an upper limit to the amount of people a clan can support.

by **USABxBOOYO** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:18 pm

Moved a lot of those posts from Carnage and CommanderCody and added GreaseMonkey's suggestion.

by **Conduit** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:03 am

I get where you're coming from here, but I'd disagree somewhat. Like Booyo said, a big clan CAN work (and does in USAB's case), but I think it's important to find people you can count on to help take some of the burden. I think a clan with a single leader and no other people helping to manage/organize will fail fairly quickly as the leader gets swamped. If you have people you trust who can help you lead, I dont really see an upper limit to the amount of people a clan can support.

Yeah, I guess so, but that wasn't my point regardless. I'm not saying Don't have a big clan, but rather just recruit as much as you can handle.Yes I'm swore.

by **CommanderCody** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:44 am

Yea,thanks Booyo,Carnage continues to troll me on the forums and IRC,please put a stop to it.

by **Venator** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:18 am

hmm i think with the "don accept ppl that want to run the clan" guy is wiki
he wanted to join enclave and be insta-coleader

by **SICKfudge** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:36 am

Good guide this, will keep it in mind if i ever feel the need to start a clan

What about 'Organise Clan Events' if you just have a clan but dont do stuff to keep people interested then people are gonna start leaving pretty quickly methinks (hint hint ghostwolf and metal :L) and they are also a good way of seeing who is accually commited to being part of the clan and how good they are

by **USABxBOOYO** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:47 am

Well LDR doesn't really do many events at all.

by **Fleischgeruch** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:04 pm

Booyo you're my hero.
Now I just hope people will actually bother reading this before starting up a clan >_>...

by **SICKfudge** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:07 pm

Hm yeah, good point. i suppose it all depends on what type of clan you advertise yourself as, If you say your a competitive clan and then you can never be bothered to do anything people arnt going to be happy.
Be commited!
thats my advice to all yall younglings out there at any rate

by **rafcommando1** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:08 pm

Only start a clan if you mean it, although im new to the forums iv seen clans fall apart just because the leaders quit.
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