Replace SMG by Assault Rifle.

[ChaosTLW]

I think that the SMG should be replaced by an Assault Rifle. It already behaves like one, and it should be a simple change. Think with me: The SMG is intended to be a close-quarters gun, and what it does right now is a medium-range multi-purpose gun. It can take targets from long to close-range, being best used at medium range. But a SMG is intended for close range. The problem is: If we get a close-range shotgun AND a close-range SMG, then there are two guns occupying the same territory, with a gap at medium range. The obvious option, since the SMG was introduced, really, would be to use an Assault Rifle with the stats we have nowadays, slightly nerfed, to occupy medium-range.
TL;DR: Replace name and skin of the SMG with the one of an Assault Rifle(IMO,M16), that makes more sense as a medium-range weapon.

Also, gtfo with that "just mod it" bullshit. I do it already, and includingly use a FAMAS skin for SMG.

[Valor]

I like it.

[Moghard]

I liek it too, the rifle should get a M4A1 skin.

[ChaosTLW]

I liek it too, the rifle should get a M4A1 skin.

If we are aiming for a Nam war-era gun, it would be anachronistic. A better equivalent would be the CAR-15, or the Model 773 (you may know it as the Commando from Black Ops).

[Paratrooper]

I liek it too, the rifle should get a M4A1 skin.

If we are aiming for a Nam war-era gun, it would be anachronistic. A better equivalent would be the CAR-15, or the Model 773 (you may know it as the Commando from Black Ops).

The M16, duh. How could you not consider that :/

Besides, I don't think AoS follows a certain timeline at all. The MP5 wasn't used in the Vietnam war.

[ChaosTLW]

I liek it too, the rifle should get a M4A1 skin.

If we are aiming for a Nam war-era gun, it would be anachronistic. A better equivalent would be the CAR-15, or the Model 773 (you may know it as the Commando from Black Ops).

The M16, duh. How could you not consider that :/

Besides, I don't think AoS follows a certain timeline at all. The MP5 wasn't used in the Vietnam war.

"TL;DR: Replace name and skin of the SMG with the one of an Assault Rifle(IMO,M16), that makes more sense as a medium-range weapon."

It isn't explicitely(is that how it is spelled?) themed at all, but all the guns match, none are anachronistic. The M14 and the R870 were in use by the US, and the MP5 really wasn't used by the US military, but it had already been developed. Also, even the name hint at it.

[TheSifodias]

Then we'll have to replace the rifle as a Sniper since Assault Rifles nowdays render medium-long range semi-auto rifles useless.

[ChaosTLW]

Then we'll have to replace the rifle as a Sniper since Assault Rifles nowdays render medium-long range semi-auto rifles useless.

I was just thinking about that, and if we combine that with another suggestion, about removing zoom when aiming down sights, we could use this system:
Sniper/DMR: Similar as the Semi we have now, with scope and with zoom.
Assault Rifle: Similar to SMG, but slightly nerfed, with almost zero/no zoom.
Shotgun: Self-explainable; no zoom.

[Fluttershy]

The "sniper" is far too good at close/mid range and far too accurate while moving among other things, and Assult Rifle implies a range greater than the smg currently has. I like the leetle gun and it should stay leetle.

hell no to rifle->sniper and definite no to smg->AR

[ChaosTLW]

The "sniper" is far too good at close/mid range and far too accurate while moving among other things, and Assult Rifle implies a range greater than the smg currently has. I like the leetle gun and it should stay leetle.

hell no to rifle->sniper and definite no to smg->AR

I said similar, not the same as the rifle we have now. Of course it would be tweaked to be beast at long range and shitty at close. And that's the entire point of switching from SMG to Assault Rifle: SMGs are supposed to be close range, while the SMG we have now is a medium-range weapon, exactly what an assault rifle is supposed to do.

[Fluttershy]

I said similar, not the same as the rifle we have now. Of course it would be tweaked to be beast at long range and shitty at close.

We're trying to veer away from being sniped at fogline, not make it easier than it already is.

And that's the entire point of switching from SMG to Assault Rifle: SMGs are supposed to be close range, while the SMG we have now is a medium-range weapon, exactly what an assault rifle is supposed to do.

The minimum effective range of an assault rifle is 300 meters, or about 3 times the fog distance. Doesnt that constitute it as a long range weapon in the context of AoS?

[Priok]

just make the SMG more close ranged with slightly more randomized recoil and it will be cool.

[ChaosTLW]

I said similar, not the same as the rifle we have now. Of course it would be tweaked to be beast at long range and shitty at close.

We're trying to veer away from being sniped at fogline, not make it easier than it already is.

And that's the entire point of switching from SMG to Assault Rifle: SMGs are supposed to be close range, while the SMG we have now is a medium-range weapon, exactly what an assault rifle is supposed to do.

The minimum effective range of an assault rifle is 300 meters, or about 3 times the fog distance. Doesnt that constitute it as a long range weapon in the context of AoS?

Well, the effective range of the M14 can be +800m with optics, and at least around 500m, but in-game the maximum effective range is 248 feets (supposing each blocks is made of two feets, in which case the players are 1.80 meters tall).
Well, at least the way I think, the weapons in-game should be a pararell to real life. So, at least in the way I think, if assault rifles are usually used in medium-range, it should translate to a dominance over medium ranges in game.

[Articsledder]

IMO that would intrude on the Semi a bit too much unless it had damage drop-off or something. Vietnam era M14's practically were assault rifles the only issue being their length was too much for a jungle environment.

[Tek2]

Why people are so againts just changing the current gun stats slightly and adding new guns? Everybody could choose the gun that fits them best and the game would have more variation.