The final solution to the rifle problem?

[MegaDeuce]

Miss the old rifle accuracy, not the fogline headshots. How about ranged damage falloff? Weapon sway? Dragons that eat campers?

The final solution might be this: Bring back the pinpoint rifle accuracy, but have rifle damage be "inversely related" to fog density.

The simplest equation would be strictly linear:

But it might be better to modify it so it doesn't drop off so quickly:

This isn't how it would drop off with distance, it's how it would drop off with fog.
This directly addresses fog camping.

What do you guys think?

[wheelz]

Yes
Why has this not been thought of before? This should probably be done to the smg aswel or else it will become the long range weapon of chose.

[ugotpiez]

Well, it's great but, sniping is for long-range, so I just can't understand why you would want to cut off a lot of its distance power.

[nalyd8991]

No shot should make zero damage however.

[wheelz]

Oh yeah shots should drop down to 40 and stay there

[Paratrooper]

What's the point of the rifle then...

[demo123]

Next thing we should do is to remove headshots at the fog line.

Then say goodbye to efficient camping.

[ThisFrickinSite]

So in order to get back the accuracy, we have to get rid of long range shooting basically? I think im leave next update too.

Maybe we could get a sniper rifle that the damage drop doesnt apply to, but it has bullet drop to compensate? A real long range weapong that has a high zoom to really set it apart from the semi and the smgs.

[USABxBOOYO]

Ben has thought of a wide range of fixes to this, and will be testing them soon. One of these fixes includes damage depreciation over distance, so this has been considered. We'll just have to see how it tests out.

[Articsledder]

I honestly thing there is no issue with the rifle. I think the main issue is lag. While playing on a server with low ping I can't tell much of a difference from the old rifle.

[PXYC]

I have a solution! Put it back to the way it was when everyone was happy!

[Fluttershy]

Ben has thought of a wide range of fixes to this, and will be testing them soon. One of these fixes includes damage depreciation over distance, so this has been considered. We'll just have to see how it tests out.

do a tf2 esque beta, make multiple rifles and have people screw around with them and see which one is best

[Frostified]

What's the point of the rifle then...

I honestly thing there is no issue with the rifle. I think the main issue is lag. While playing on a server with low ping I can't tell much of a difference from the old rifle.

I have a solution! Put it back to the way it was when everyone was happy!

Rifle problem? What rifle problem?
The rifle is fine the way it is. By implementing something like this it may purge more of the fun out of aos.

[MegaDeuce]

Ben has thought of a wide range of fixes to this, and will be testing them soon. One of these fixes includes damage depreciation over distance, so this has been considered. We'll just have to see how it tests out.

do a tf2 esque beta, make multiple rifles and have people screw around with them and see which one is best

That sounds pretty cool actually...

I just want to point out that for the second graph... 60% fog means the player is mostly hidden by fog. And that's just where it would start to drop off. And that's just an example.

The whole point is to have the rifle be the same rifle until you get to the point where your targets are almost completely concealed by fog.

[IrishElf]

I think a combination of Weapon sway when moving and a slight dropoff in damage after somewhere between 90~105 blocks combined with the pinpoint accuracy would be perfect.

Far enough to outrange a slightly nerfed SMG yet not so far that SMG users will have no chance to reach their around 65~75 edge of range window.