Sidearms please! (all classes)

[MrSheeppeh]

Hey guys. I might've figured it out. Some of you will agree, some of you will disagree. What I'm thinking is that you should only be able to use it if you have no ammo left, whether or not you have anything in reserve to reload your primary with, and the sidearm could not be reloaded, it could only shoot something like 5-10 shots and then it will revert back to your primary. Since I always backpedal and jump into cover when I'm out of ammo, it could still be used in the same way. Eg: A guy is shooting at you, you run out of ammo, your primary switches to the sidearm, and you fire off defensive shots while you look for cover to run into. You then jump in, reload and run out ready to battle. Now, I can't decide whether you have to use all the ammo in the pistol before you can switch back or just switch back whenever you like, regardless of how much ammo is left. I think that the damage should be decent enough to pick off a guy that's atleast halfway dead, so something around 10-25 for the head, 5-10 for the body, and 3-6 for the legs.

[MrHaaaaaaxFF]

^This guy is definitely haven't read any posts in the thread.
But i will give him some slack; Welcome to AoS Forums! Enjoy your stay. You might want to introduce yourself in the Introduce/Farewell section.

On topic: Perferably 30-50 HP to head; 15-20 to body; 5-10 in the limbs. I don't know which one is best, so quote me and give some ideas.

[MrSheeppeh]

Sorry about that, I have a habit of posting up my own idea before checking other's posts to see if they've suggested the same thing as me. Thanks for the warm welcome too, nice to know that there's some friendly people in the world.

[Fluttershy]

Then high damage for the head, while normal/yours damage for body and limbs?

Thats still retarded. Smg's damage on the body and limb is fairly modest yet that doesnt stop the 75 damage headshots from being any less OP.

[Rockettechgamer]

Re: Sidearms please! (all classes)

Post by Fluttershy » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:11 am

MrHaaaaaaxFF wrote:Then high damage for the head, while normal/yours damage for body and limbs?



Thats still retarded. Smg's damage on the body and limb is fairly modest yet that doesnt stop the 75 damage headshots from being any less OP

what about 50 or 49 damage to the head, and smg damage to the body?

[MrMeow]

If it's added it needs to be a pitiful excuse for a weapon.


Head: 15-25 at the most.
Torso: 5-10 at the most.
Limbs: 1-5 at the most.

It should be accurate enough to hit someone 25-30 blocks away.

It should fire 1-2 bullets a second and have a low amount of recoil when aiming.

Clip: 8 rounds
Reserve: 24

[Fluttershy]

what about 50 or 49 damage to the head, and smg damage to the body?

"Lets stop it from 2 hitting people by lowering it to 50, thatll work!". 49 is still way too high.

Clip: 8 rounds
Reserve: 24

But then it doesnt solve the imaginary ammunition problem!

[MrMeow]

Flutter you make me lol.
How bout we give eet 10000000000000000000000 rounds?


Anyway, It should only have enough to get you back to the CP so you can refill.
It shouldn't let you stay in one spot for the entire game.

[ChaosTLW]

IMO, the damage profile should be somewhat like this:
Headshot: 30
Torso: 20
Limb:15
This way it would be 4 hits to the head, 5 to the body and at 7 to limbs to kill.
I think that around 10~12 rounds on the magazine would be enough?

Also, what if we add damage drop-off for the sidearm? If damage drop-off gets implemented for sidearms, then the whole picture changes. It could be something like this:
Headshot: 35 up to 20 blocks, 30 around 50 blocks, 20 beyond.
Torso: 30 until 20 blocks, 20 around 50 blocks, 18 beyond.
Limb: 20 up to 20 blocks, 15 around 50 blocks, 10 beyond.

[MrHaaaaaaxFF]

IMO, the damage profile should be somewhat like this:
Headshot: 30
Torso: 20
Limb:15
This way it would be 4 hits to the head, 5 to the body and at 7 to limbs to kill.
I think that around 10~12 rounds on the magazine would be enough?

Also, what if we add damage drop-off for the sidearm? If damage drop-off gets implemented for sidearms, then the whole picture changes. It could be something like this:
Headshot: 35 up to 20 blocks, 30 around 50 blocks, 20 beyond.
Torso: 30 until 20 blocks, 20 around 50 blocks, 18 beyond.
Limb: 20 up to 20 blocks, 15 around 50 blocks, 10 beyond.

You read my mind!

[inazumaeleven24]

I totally support this idea!! (Copied from one of the poll answers of this thread)
I definitely want sidearms to be implemented from the game, it would be really helpful just like when in a situation said already by thread maker "Cyanyde" that when in a gun fight and you run out of ammo, you still have your sidearm. And this will totally help when you are too far from the base CP already.


P.S. I got much(or all) of my reply's content from other's replies in this thread and I think on other threads too :D

[Paratrooper]

Well, here's my draft for a good, balanced pistol:

Damage: 26 to head
21 to body
14/15 to limbs
Ammo: 7 loaded, 21/infinity reserve
Fire rate: Faster than the Semi, slower than the SMG. Automatic like ALL the guns. (though if the semi/shotgun ever actually becomes semiautomatic, then make the pistol semiautomatic, too.)
Accuracy: SMG accuracy
Recoil : Recoil that's a tab bit higher than the SMG's.

3 headshots + 1 bodyshot Isn't a kill. Leaving you with 1 health remaining
4 bodyshot + 1 limbshot Isn't a kill, too. Also leaving you with 2/1 health remaining.

4 headshots to kill
5 bodyshots to kill
7 limbshots to kill

All in all, one magazine is almost always never enough to take down an opponent. You need to have done some sort of damage to your opponent before switching to your secondary for it to be useful.

[Benton]

In my opinion, the sidearm should be used for when you are reloading and you get charged. I have gotten charged many times when I am behind cover and someone charges around it and gets me when I am reloading.

Headshot - 40hp
Torso - 20
Legs/Arms - 10

It would take three headshots to kill someone, and if the sidearm had poor accuracy it would be difficult. Something to fire off when you are out of ammo. Because even the best do get times when they are behind cover reloading and three guys spawn behind them. Sidearm could be enough to kill or wound one of them, and suppress them in time to get to more cover.

Also, if it was quiet, I would like to use it as a stealthy shoot-the-deuce-in-the-back sort of gun. My rules of combat are a scout/recon. Go around the hostile, flank them, etc. Something quiet would be really nice. And no tracers.

The sidearm could be a gun that would be used in SOME situations, like when you are reloading, or if you want to be quiet.

[Arilarin]

I kind of support this, but maybe a Side-Arm could be switched out with grenades/spade in any CP you control.
+.5

[shrugzeestorey]

i reckon a desert eagle or a glock 18