Idea to balance the shotgun : run & gun

[Gorman]

"used to say" as in, "in the past".

Maybe you can count the number of shotgun deaths on my hand, I'm not saying I walk in to a game and litterally kill every player. I don't purposefully go out of my way to hunt players just so I can claim that. Maybe you just go to places that are not easy for a shotgun to get to. I usually walk straight down the middle of the map and don't climb structures.
Besides that 99% of players on GH are deuces...

To me it encourages the "sprint from cover to cover and always attack unexpectedly" mentality, rather than camping.
The advantages of the shotgun, as I said, is not needing to wait for reload mainly. Hit R after ever shot and you never need duck out of combat or worry.

Shotgun is not as versatile as the others, but it is decent.

I feel like it would be dishonest for me to say "This weapon that can destroy an entire team without effort, it needs buffing because I can't snipe with it!"

[Stiivais]

This is actually a great idea

I second that notion.

I... ...thirdond? ...third? ...three'd? ...tree-time? ...after-second? ...approve?

OR you could make the shotgun as accurate as it was in .7 but then again, everyone would scream SHOTGUN NOOBzorz, because you could take out rifle guys with it back then. Now, almost noone uses it. Good idea.

[Putin]

Im for 0.70 run and gun with shotgun would be ugly stupid noobish provocating and its easier to make it like on 0.70.

[Articsledder]

I would be ok with this, however only if the shotgun gets a slight buff to get it working again, and isn't returned to .70 or .65 or whatever it was when you could practically snipe with it.

[killerpenguin]

I think this is a good idea but maybe make it so that only one shot could be fired while running? To chamber a new round/fire again one would have to stop sprinting.
It would make the shotgun capable of rush but fairly strategic at the same time, as you can clear a guy form cover quickly but can't keep running after that.
Besides, I think it is pretty hard to work a pump while sprinting as fast as you can.

[MrMeow]

I think this is a good idea but maybe make it so that only one shot could be fired while running? To chamber a new round/fire again one would have to stop sprinting.
It would make the shotgun capable of rush but fairly strategic at the same time, as you can clear a guy form cover quickly but can't keep running after that.
Besides, I think it is pretty hard to work a pump while sprinting as fast as you can.

Tap sprint to chamber another.
Also, Lever-action isn't hard to use while running.

[Priok]

I think that the shotgun is alright as it is, probably all that should be done is raise its damage or pellet count a bit. I like it more when the person with the shotgun has to know what they're doing, but maybe an idea could be, the shotgun is drawn faster after sprinting? or the other guns could be a bit slower on draw times, to make it so the shotgun is the best for rushing around with sprint.

[Paratrooper]

The shotgun's spread is just too big to be used, even in close range.
In most cases, the SMG supersedes the shotgun's ability.

I certainly wouldn't suggest increasing the speed of a person carrying the shotgun, probably just decrease the spread.

[NamTaey]

I think that the shotgun is alright as it is, probably all that should be done is raise its damage or pellet count a bit. I like it more when the person with the shotgun has to know what they're doing, but maybe an idea could be, the shotgun is drawn faster after sprinting? or the other guns could be a bit slower on draw times, to make it so the shotgun is the best for rushing around with sprint.

Exactly! I second everything this good man has said!

[scarfacemperor]

That sounds ok, the shotgun drawn faster and the rifle slower

Also, increasing both the number of pellets and spread. That would not affect the shotgun's effective range (no shotgun-sniper like before) but would make it more effective at close range, making you less likely to miss a close range shot, as missing a shotgun shot is equal to death currently, due to the shotgun's rate of fire

[Tek2]

Also, increasing both the number of pellets and spread. That would not affect the shotgun's effective range (no shotgun-sniper like before) but would make it more effective at close range, making you less likely to miss a close range shot, as missing a shotgun shot is equal to death currently, due to the shotgun's rate of fire

In my opinion the whole shotgun shoots pellets idea should be removed and changed to a hitscan beam which damages enemy players depending on the distance and which part of the body you aim at.

Could put some pellet visuals into it if you feel like it.

[scarfacemperor]

Good point, a true shotgun round holds centuries of pellets and not 6 or 12 like in most games

[Paratrooper]

Good point, a true shotgun round holds centuries of pellets and not 6 or 12 like in most games

Agreed, but I'm worried the game would lag when it simultaneously casts hundreds of rays in a short amount of time.

Assuming that the shotgun is using buckshots, 10 - 20 should be reasonable.

[Dzhoel]

Wow, i love this idea to balance the shotgun :D
+1

[ThisFrickinSite]

Why not just make it so that the spray actually travels towards the enemy instead of to the right or left a few blocks?