Weapon Suggestion: CrossBow

[ChaosTLW]

to similar to the rifle. need more variety.

Well, we already have a long-range low-to-medium RoF gun(Rifle), full-auto medium-range SMG and a short-range pump-action Shotgun. I don't see much other combinations we can make to create variety.

Anyway, brainstorming is always welcome. What about the ability to supress guns? Maybe switching the grenades for a supressor for the rifle and the SMG?

well yeah but did they even have suppressors in WW1? the reason i think crossbows would be perfect is because you can have a heavy bullet drop rate on them to keep them from being over powered and crossbows where used as Assassination weapons due to being almost silent. even silenced guns aren't very quiet.

WWI wut? This game isn't based on any particular time period/war (even though somethings hint it is Nam/Korea themed).
Maybe implement the same solution BF3 came with: Guns with silencers shoot slower bullets, and because of that have slightly more bullet drop. Another way would make the damage fall-off(that is being implemented in .76) much more significant with the silenced weapons, so you kinda NEED to kill him fast if you want to remain undetected.

[XxsnipahxX]

maybe there should be a 20% chance of picking back up an arrow from the dead bodies.

[FlyingPig]

Crossbows have a longer reload than 2-3secs more like 5-8secs or longer and you have to stand still to reload them, plus the arrow would have gravity and would be not much good on sniping maps, and it would be pretty useless vs blocks. (there is a reason we use guns...)

[thegreatninjaman]

Crossbows have a longer reload than 2-3secs more like 5-8secs or longer and you have to stand still to reload them, plus the arrow would have gravity and would be not much good on sniping maps, and it would be pretty useless vs blocks. (there is a reason we use guns...)

did you even read WHY the crossbow would be useful? its a risk vs reward weapon that is used for stealth. why would you use it for long range? its for sneaking up on people and shooting them in the back of the head. thats what bullet drop is btw, its gravity effecting the projectile. also why would it effect blocks?

[FlyingPig]

Crossbows have a longer reload than 2-3secs more like 5-8secs or longer and you have to stand still to reload them, plus the arrow would have gravity and would be not much good on sniping maps, and it would be pretty useless vs blocks. (there is a reason we use guns...)

did you even read WHY the crossbow would be useful? its a risk vs reward weapon that is used for stealth. why would you use it for long range? its for sneaking up on people and shooting them in the back of the head. thats what bullet drop is btw, its gravity effecting the projectile. also why would it effect blocks?

Yes but do you know how bulky they are? And I did read why it is said to be useful, why not just bring a rifle it blends in with everyone elses firing sounds and if you hear no one shooting that means no one will hear you if you do, people are ALWAYS shooting. When you can just bring a rifle and shoot em in the back of the head you still kill them. Plus the ability to destroy blocks is tremendous I have destroyed so many bunkers with my rifle which forces the enemy to either dig and try and get our intel or retreat and make another bunker. Not many people listen for extra rifle sounds while they are fighting. And the use of crossbows would also wreck the atmosphere this is a not medieval times, on the battle field you do not need crossbows when you have silenced pistols, it would be better for silenced pistols to be added for the same whimpy advantage and others. Heres a some link that talks about weapon advantages and disadvantages (yes they do talk about the crossbow.): http://glennpendlay.wordpress.com/2012/ ... bies-come/

[MrHaaaaaaxFF]

Crossbows have a longer reload than 2-3secs more like 5-8secs or longer and you have to stand still to reload them, plus the arrow would have gravity and would be not much good on sniping maps, and it would be pretty useless vs blocks. (there is a reason we use guns...)

did you even read WHY the crossbow would be useful? its a risk vs reward weapon that is used for stealth. why would you use it for long range? its for sneaking up on people and shooting them in the back of the head. thats what bullet drop is btw, its gravity effecting the projectile. also why would it effect blocks?

Yes but do you know how bulky they are? And I did read why it is said to be useful, why not just bring a rifle it blends in with everyone elses firing sounds and if you hear no one shooting that means no one will hear you if you do, people are ALWAYS shooting. When you can just bring a rifle and shoot em in the back of the head you still kill them. Plus the ability to destroy blocks is tremendous I have destroyed so many bunkers with my rifle which forces the enemy to either dig and try and get our intel or retreat and make another bunker. Not many people listen for extra rifle sounds while they are fighting. And the use of crossbows would also wreck the atmosphere this is a not medieval times, on the battle field you do not need crossbows when you have silenced pistols, it would be better for silenced pistols to be added for the same whimpy advantage and others. Heres a some link that talks about weapon advantages and disadvantages (yes they do talk about the crossbow.): http://glennpendlay.wordpress.com/2012/ ... bies-come/

I'm not sure if silencers were made in WW2 nor Vietnam War... Guess not. Silenced pistol useless on this one, my friend. And destroying blocks? Try use an arrow to destroy a concrete block, then compare it to a concrete block have got shot by bullets. Logically you can see why.
Stealh is important in AoS too, allowing you to bypass enemy defenses,(and mostly bypass defense, lol) so when like your team wanted to take the intel, you cannot just take your rifle and spam at your enemy's defenses, cuz mostly that will result in death.
BTW, zombies? We are fighting with infantry, not zombies. That article is useless.

[ChaosTLW]

Yes but do you know how bulky they are? And I did read why it is said to be useful, why not just bring a rifle it blends in with everyone elses firing sounds and if you hear no one shooting that means no one will hear you if you do, people are ALWAYS shooting. When you can just bring a rifle and shoot em in the back of the head you still kill them. Plus the ability to destroy blocks is tremendous I have destroyed so many bunkers with my rifle which forces the enemy to either dig and try and get our intel or retreat and make another bunker. Not many people listen for extra rifle sounds while they are fighting. And the use of crossbows would also wreck the atmosphere this is a not medieval times, on the battle field you do not need crossbows when you have silenced pistols, it would be better for silenced pistols to be added for the same whimpy advantage and others. Heres a some link that talks about weapon advantages and disadvantages (yes they do talk about the crossbow.): http://glennpendlay.wordpress.com/2012/ ... bies-come/

I'm not sure if silencers were made in WW2 nor Vietnam War... Guess not. Silenced pistol useless on this one, my friend. And destroying blocks? Try use an arrow to destroy a concrete block, then compare it to a concrete block have got shot by bullets. Logically you can see why.
Stealh is important in AoS too, allowing you to bypass enemy defenses,(and mostly bypass defense, lol) so when like your team wanted to take the intel, you cannot just take your rifle and spam at your enemy's defenses, cuz mostly that will result in death.
BTW, zombies? We are fighting with infantry, not zombies. That article is useless.

Early suppressors were created around the beginning of the 20th century by several inventors. American inventor Hiram Percy Maxim (not to be confused with Hiram Stevens Maxim, Hiram Percy's father, and the inventor of the Maxim Machine Gun), is credited with inventing and selling the first commercially successful models circa 1902 (patented 30 March 1909).

Yap, maybe even used in WWI.

[FlyingPig]

I'm not sure if silencers were made in WW2 nor Vietnam War... Guess not. Silenced pistol useless on this one, my friend. And destroying blocks? Try use an arrow to destroy a concrete block, then compare it to a concrete block have got shot by bullets. Logically you can see why.
Stealh is important in AoS too, allowing you to bypass enemy defenses,(and mostly bypass defense, lol) so when like your team wanted to take the intel, you cannot just take your rifle and spam at your enemy's defenses, cuz mostly that will result in death.
BTW, zombies? We are fighting with infantry, not zombies. That article is useless.

Silencers where made in the early 20th century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor. How is the extra stealth useful when the enemy doesn't even bother looking back? Its not, with the disadvantages of the crossbow your gunna be in deep water. People still get the intel as is, how much better is a crossbow than a rifle? All it is is a cool downgrade. Shooting at the enemies defenses with the rifle while im trying to get intel is not what I meant, im talking about sniping out blocks from afar while the enemy is hiding behind them or being pinned down by my allies. The rifle is much better than the crossbow, rof wise(and you can also reload without standing still), more bullets, more flexible weapon, and its sound is less noticable. (come on the zombie article still has pointers and there always that zombie game mode)