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Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby DarkDXZ » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:58 pm

It may seem quite a lot crazy, but I tried my best to make it hard to abuse.


So, essentially, you know - there are those heavy machine guns that you need to deploy before shooting. (not in-game)

BUT, there are also automatic grenade launchers, which work more or less the same way (having to be deployed).
So why not introduce something like that into Ace of Spades?

You might be thinking it's OP, its griefer's toy, it's unrealistic.

Let me tell you:
"it's overpowered"
If you consider the fact you have to deploy it (which takes some time), and moving it makes you slower and unable to attack, then it's probably not very OP.
"it's abusable by griefers"
Maybe it would. BUT, what if those grenades shot from this AGL wouldn't harm the terrain? After all, they are smaller than hand grenades.
"it's unrealistic"
First AGLs were used in Vietnam War, in which the game supposedly takes place.

To pick the AGL up, you could click a new key type, called "Action" (default: Tab), which would also allow you to use the tent to resupply if wanted to (it would no longer refill it automatically, but it would still do it instantly). Picking the AGL up would be instant, but putting it down would take roughly 2 seconds.

The nades would be somewhat weaker than those you could throw, but they would travel longer distance, comapred to throwable hand grenades.

Those AGLs would spawn in random places around the map, with roughly 20 grenades in the mag. If you want to refill this weapon:

When you go to tent (or when you spawn), you can choose between three hand grenades, or a 20-round box of grenades that you can use to refill the AGL. Note that those grenades aren't throwable (what did you expect?).
You CAN also walk with this all the way to the tent, but it doesn't seem to make much sense, does it?

When carrying AGL, you walk roughly as fast when crouching and you can't sprint. You can only jump one block high as well, which would make roads once more reasonable (or at least sort of).

You may say that we don't need heavy weapons until vehicles are in, but tell me - are you really going to use grenade launchers against helicopters/choppers?
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:05 pm

Heh, at least you got nice excuses. Quite balanced.
Also for others: Auto grenade launchers are real, for example Mk 19.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_19_grenade_launcher
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby DarkDXZ » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:08 pm

Or XM174 (which was indeed also used in Vietnam War)
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Why AGLs instead of HMGs, you ask?
Well - HMGs are overrated, and you don't see many Automatic Grenade Launchers in games, do you?
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:10 pm

DarkDXZ wrote:Or XM174 (which was indeed also used in Vietnam War)
Here.


Why AGLs instead of HMGs, you ask?
Well - HMGs are overrated, and you don't see many Automatic Grenade Launchers in games, do you?

Maybe...
I have a Grenade launcher mod, but of course, it not automatic and fires grenades :P
I suggest we use Mk 19, as we got MOAR pics about it and its quite easy to modeling :D
EDIT Maybe both, but hell i dunno :P
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby DarkDXZ » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:18 pm

MrHaaaaaaxFF wrote:
DarkDXZ wrote:Or XM174 (which was indeed also used in Vietnam War)
Here.


Why AGLs instead of HMGs, you ask?
Well - HMGs are overrated, and you don't see many Automatic Grenade Launchers in games, do you?

Maybe...
I have a Grenade launcher mod, but of course, it not automatic and fires grenades :P
I suggest we use Mk 19, as we got MOAR pics about it and its quite easy to modeling :D
EDIT Maybe both, but hell i dunno :P


Totally. Mk 19 is epic.
Should it have sights?

(doesnt seem to be impossible, imo)

EDIT: But wait, it uses 40mm nades...Whatever!
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:22 pm

Btw a question: its seem that weaps maked with XM are prototypes. Am i true?
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Wikipedia wrote:the U. S. military prefix for any experimental weapon or item of equipment, which is followed by numbers, and changes to "M" when the item is formally adopted. There are exceptions to the practice, but it has generally been followed since the nomenclature change of 1962.
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby DarkDXZ » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:26 pm

MrHaaaaaaxFF wrote:Btw a question: its seem that weaps maked with XM are prototypes. Am i true?


Most likely.
XM8, for example...

"the U. S. military prefix for any experimental weapon or item of equipment, which is followed by numbers, and changes to "M" when the item is formally adopted. There are exceptions to the practice, but it has generally been followed since the nomenclature change of 1962"
Source: Wikipedia XM disambuguation page
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby Diggy » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:36 am

I don't see why more people don't makes forts. even if not useful, they're a lot of fun
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby Venator » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:54 am

lol look at the wikipediaarticle of that xm174
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby Paratrooper » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:54 am

I don't know. I disagree with anything that doesn't fit in with Vietnam War.

If we were to have this, may as well have AT weapons and rocket launchers.
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby DarkDXZ » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:43 pm

Paratrooper wrote:I don't know. I disagree with anything that doesn't fit in with Vietnam War.

If we were to have this, may as well have AT weapons and rocket launchers.


But there were several AGLs that WERE used in Vietnam War.
Particularly aforediscussed Mk 19 and XM174.
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby greatman78 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:00 am

i totally agree with you MrHaaaaaaxFF Mk 19 is cool we should use it..i love Mk 19
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby SICKfudge » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:41 am

Would also much prefer mortars
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Re: Automatic Grenade Launcher (BALANCED!)

Postby Aeroclaw » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:28 pm

COD players if this comes out:

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