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[Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Got a great new idea for the game?

Which Rifle?

.70 Super-accurate rifle
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81%
.75 Randomly shooting rifle
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19%
 
Total votes : 42

Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby Varun » Fri May 18, 2012 1:20 pm

The new update is adaptable, though I wish 0.70 accuracy was back. I just wish that the smg had slightly more recoil. With burst firing and crouching, you can hit targets at great distances with the smg.
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby NapalmFlame » Sun May 20, 2012 12:38 pm

Not being rewarded for skill and having your fate left to rng is never good game design. The rifle is just that- badly designed at this point in time. I could live with having the current level of deviation on follow-up shots within a 1 second timeframe, and as much as 20% of the current deviation on first shot, preferrably no deviation at all, but in its current state the rifle is outranged by the smg, purely because you can just crouch and spray to tilt probability in your favour. Getting mowed down at fog range by smg users when you're a rifleman is absolutely ludicrous. SMGs are supposed to be close-range dominance weapons, and rifles are supposed to be range queens- their roles are completely reversed!
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby OnkelDolan » Sun May 20, 2012 2:02 pm

I agree that the rifle is broken in this release. It all depends on if you have good or bad luck.
The worst thing is that someone could just write a script that guesses when you will have an accurate shot or where you should shoot to get the accurate shot. With tf2 some people use this kind of hack to get critical hits all the time.
I suspect some people do have this kind of cheat since there are those few who get accurate shots 100% of the time
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby kmaj » Sun May 20, 2012 2:14 pm

I'm surprised there are 6 people that like the current accuracy.
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby Varun » Sun May 20, 2012 2:21 pm

OnkelDolan wrote:I agree that the rifle is broken in this release. It all depends on if you have good or bad luck.
The worst thing is that someone could just write a script that guesses when you will have an accurate shot or where you should shoot to get the accurate shot. With tf2 some people use this kind of hack to get critical hits all the time.
I suspect some people do have this kind of cheat since there are those few who get accurate shots 100% of the time

Not necessarily. Today I was getting at least 85-90% of my shots on target, and most were headshots. It is not solely based on luck. There is still skill involved. Its just a lot harder than before.
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby OnkelDolan » Sun May 20, 2012 4:37 pm

Varun wrote:
OnkelDolan wrote:I agree that the rifle is broken in this release. It all depends on if you have good or bad luck.
The worst thing is that someone could just write a script that guesses when you will have an accurate shot or where you should shoot to get the accurate shot. With tf2 some people use this kind of hack to get critical hits all the time.
I suspect some people do have this kind of cheat since there are those few who get accurate shots 100% of the time

Not necessarily. Today I was getting at least 85-90% of my shots on target, and most were headshots. It is not solely based on luck. There is still skill involved. Its just a lot harder than before.


I never said skill wasn't involved. If you try to aim 180 degrees of your target, there is no way of you hitting him, but if you are withing a certain area you have a certain chance of hitting him, even if you d onot aim correctly because of chance based accuracy. Sometimes I get near correct aim out of my gun, some times it takes 5 headshots to kill one guy
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby Varun » Sun May 20, 2012 4:53 pm

Yeah, I used to think only MLG pros like mikuli could do it, but if I can, then most other people should be able to. I'm not saying that I'm bad, but I'm not the best.
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby nam3sbOb » Mon May 21, 2012 12:52 am

Ummmm I wasn't playing when .70 was out, but all I know is that I personally can get accuracies of up to 60% with the .75 rifle AND I can keep it. Depends on what kind of day I'm having, but I can easily counter the recoil and get loads of headshots every game, even when enemies are behind structures. I will say that the rifle is very good for any range, but for me, it is also EXTREMELY accurate (hence why I voted for the .75 "random-shooting" rifle :/ ).
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby nam3sbOb » Mon May 21, 2012 1:05 am

kmaj wrote:I'm surprised there are 6 people that like the current accuracy.

Yea the reason I like it is cause there is actually some challenge involved......most people that like the new accuracy, if you pay close attention, are probably people that crave an actual CHALLANGE from time to time. Playing with the .70 rifle, from the sounds of it, sounds like the game would be finished before it even started! Where is the sence of accomplishment if you just shoot, kill, and repeat using no skill what so ever?
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby Tek2 » Mon May 21, 2012 7:25 am

nam3sbOb wrote:
kmaj wrote:I'm surprised there are 6 people that like the current accuracy.

Yea the reason I like it is cause there is actually some challenge involved......most people that like the new accuracy, if you pay close attention, are probably people that crave an actual CHALLANGE from time to time. Playing with the .70 rifle, from the sounds of it, sounds like the game would be finished before it even started! Where is the sence of accomplishment if you just shoot, kill, and repeat using no skill what so ever?

Isn't it a challenge that you could easily be picked off by an accurate player from fog distance?
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby kmaj » Mon May 21, 2012 7:41 am

nam3sbOb wrote:
kmaj wrote:I'm surprised there are 6 people that like the current accuracy.

Yea the reason I like it is cause there is actually some challenge involved......most people that like the new accuracy, if you pay close attention, are probably people that crave an actual CHALLANGE from time to time. Playing with the .70 rifle, from the sounds of it, sounds like the game would be finished before it even started! Where is the sence of accomplishment if you just shoot, kill, and repeat using no skill what so ever?

challenge*
The accuracy is pretty much random now, so I don't see how skill is involved.
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby Stiivais » Mon May 21, 2012 11:03 am

I voted both, because the guy who made this thread was careless... :trollface:
Just go to http://www.ace-spades.com, look at the twitter feed in the right side of the screen,
read about accuracy. Stop spamming...
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby robotnik185 » Mon May 21, 2012 8:31 pm

This would GREATLY encourage aimbotting. AoS would be full of em'.
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Re: [Poll] Bring Back the .70 Rifle?!

Postby Tek2 » Tue May 22, 2012 7:30 am

robotnik185 wrote:This would GREATLY encourage aimbotting. AoS would be full of em'.

-.-'

Seriously? Aimbotters can instakill anyone in sight no matter how much cone there it.
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