0.76 Discussion

[Putin]

Please tell me how it makes game better by making the smg more accurate running than it is while hardly moving at all?

I.. I.. ? Don't understand but the key word is Balance. The rifle can head-shot while running and smg can't do a Fu*k at running/standing . And all in all the Smg is meant to be a Offensive weapon.

[Fluttershy]

I.. I.. ? Don't understand but the key word is Balance. The rifle can head-shot while running and smg can't do a Fu*k at running/standing .

Balance doesnt mean taking a sledge hammer to everything. If you have a problem with a gun, you dont solve it by changing it on that gun, and then giving that thing that made it OP in your eyes to the other gun.

And all in all the Smg is meant to be a Offensive weapon.

Theyre all offensive weapons. Unless youre going to say that rifle is defensive, in which case smg is support and shotgun is the offensive weapon.

[Paratrooper]

All guns except the shotgun are balanced IMO.

SMGs are good when put at good hands. One does not simply stand and spray the smg, expecting to kill someone at fog distance.

[Putin]

Rifle Good at:
Run
Stand
Crouch

Smg Good at:
Crouch

So why? Why a powerful rifle that got high accuracy and RoF is balanced with a low power high recoil inaccurate "only Crouch weapon" ? Anyway I got really no power to write any more. I go sleep.

@Paratrooper
No I Shoot'ed at least hundred times a guy at fog range with smg(Stand) I tried 1 bullet shooting no way even if it was on his head the bullet would fly 5 or more blocks away from him. And if you think u cant Stand and Burst fire kill a guy at fog forget it that cant be done even with 1 bullet shots .

[AlexKirchu]

Rifle Good at:
Run
Stand
Crouch

Smg Good at:
Crouch

So why? Why a powerful rifle that got high accuracy and RoF is balanced with a low power high recoil inaccurate "only Crouch weapon" ? Anyway I got really no power to write any more. I go sleep.

@Paratrooper
No I Shoot'ed at least hundred times a guy at fog range with smg(Stand) I tried 1 bullet shooting no way even if it was on his head the bullet would fly 5 or more blocks away from him. And if you think u cant Stand and Burst fire kill a guy at fog forget it that cant be done even with 1 bullet shots .

You forget, the rifle is a bloody accurate single-shot weapon, whilst the SMG is a rapid fire SMG which has recoil. You can't expect the SMG to NOT have recoil in a game like this, otherwise it'd be the OP gun which can be sprayed quite accurately without much praying. Besides, what are you complaining about? Since 0.75 the SMG has had a buff already, with increased accuracy overall, especially when crouched. It's actually more on par with the rifle now.

Maybe now its the shotgun which needs re-balancing. I don't use it much, but from what other people are saying it's a bit inconsistent and bad.

You also forget that each weapon has a specific role to play. With that in mind, your view of them being "balanced" in one particular aspect may not be the aspect which the gun is supposed to fill. SMG is not a long range weapon, you can't expect it to be DEAD on at fog range. The rifle however, is accurate all round, so it's good for long range, and if used properly, good for short range too. Maybe NOT aiming down the sights on the rifle could have some more spread to make close range combat a bit more realistic, but otherwise its fine.

Also, due to some factors such as lag and weird aiming mechanics since 0.75, the rifle isn't ALWAYS dead on anyway, and it requires skill to be used well.

Alex~

[Putin]

^ You are pretty right but. I'm That the smg get's a Stand and movement accuracy boost , The duck accuracy maybe a bit lowered. And The rifle should have Bigger Rate of fire It shoots to fast what makes it deadly at Mid and Close range.

[lehma18]

Rifle Good at:
Run
Stand
Crouch

Smg Good at:
Crouch

Learn to play.

A more realistic list would be;

Rifle good at:
Medium-range

SMG good at:
Long-range
Medium-range
Close-range
Faceblast-range
Melee-range
Run 'n gunning
Crouching
Standing

Shotgun good at:
Faceblast-range
Melee-range

Don't get me wrong, the rifle CAN still be used in all ranges, but if you miss at close-range it's pretty much game over unless the enemy's an ultimate deuce or is reloading. At extreme & long-range it's not worth shit, i emptied my whole clip to a NON-MOVING target, and none of the bullets hit. And bear in mind i am, shall we say, fucking good in this game. I still have scored some headshots to fog-range, but come on. COME ON. It's like playing jumpman, but instead of a pile of barrels, Donkey Kong has an instakilling sub-machinegun. You get one shot at him, and there's no telling where the shot will go, you just pull the trigger and hope for the best. If it misses, the game will suddenly become touhou project as Donkey-Kong sprays wall-bouncing bullets everywhere.

[Putin]

^

i emptied my whole clip to a NON-MOVING target, and none of the bullets hit.

Mostly the Rifle hits doesn't register at 0.75v. Its like this what hapened to me. I Shot a whole clip of smg in a guys head(he was like 10 blocks away) and he just turn around and spades me? My reaction was alt+f4

[Sniper101]

And I made the mistake to reply to your * Arrogant * being.
Go Troll somewhere else.

Ok, do you know any good bridges?

Please tell me how it makes game better by making the smg more accurate running than it is while hardly moving at all?

Easy. When you run, your closer to the enemy, making your gun more accurate. If you don't run, your far away, so your gun isn't as accurate.

[Putin]

And I made the mistake to reply to your * Arrogant * being.
Go Troll somewhere else.

Ok, do you know any good bridges?

Please tell me how it makes game better by making the smg more accurate running than it is while hardly moving at all?

Easy. When you run, your closer to the enemy, making your gun more accurate. If you don't run, your far away, so your gun isn't as accurate.

xD Hahaha you are funny.

[tunaspirit]

1. award people with a pornographic picture when they kill a deuce not using the SMG
2. drastically nerf rifle and shotgun
3. ???
4. PROFIT

[Fluttershy]

^ You are pretty right but. I'm That the smg get's a Stand and movement accuracy boost , The duck accuracy maybe a bit lowered.

Once again, thats completely retarded and backwards, you dont punish people for not ramboing.

And The rifle should have Bigger Rate of fire It shoots to fast what makes it deadly at Mid and Close range.

You may want to rephrase this.

[HoboHob]

I have got an idea! Lets buff the SMG!

Lets make it more accurate than the Rifle, have no recoil and unlimited ammo! Heck lets just make it do 100 limb damage!

[Fluttershy]

I have got an idea! Lets buff the SMG!

Lets make it more accurate than the Rifle, have no recoil and unlimited ammo! Heck lets just make it do 100 limb damage!

You forgot the part where running makes it 100% accurate with no recoil,and crouching reduces accuracy.

[Putin]

You Just dont knew what is balance. You think a 100% accurate Rifle and a Crap Smg is balanced but anyway think whatever you want...