STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

[TheSifodias]

^ ends our little debate. We need more debates like this in AOS instead of all these complaints.

[TheOperator]

Rifle accuracy really needs to be sorted out.
When I hear the whack.wav sound, I think I've killed an enemy so I change target. But with the new rifle accuracy, you can get 'false-headshots': Headshots that registers client-side (by notification with the whack.wav) but doesn't register server-side (because your target is still alive).
I've been killed loads of times because of this minor/major frustration. And I find it stupid that although your crosshair is directly on their head, it still doesn't always get you a headshot.
Please go back to the 0.49 rifle ben, then we can end this madness.

For the other weapons:
Shotgun REALLY badly needs to be improved, I don't think I need to repeat what the community says.
SMG can be left alone imo if the rifle gets it's accuracy back.

The problem with the 0.49 Rifle's 100% accuracy is the fact that there will be people who will start complaining about it once it is re-implemented. We've already been there before.

Honestly, I'm just going to shrug and go with whatever Ben's going to implement. I can kill people just fine with the Rifle's present accuracy.

The only people who ever complained about rifles accuracy were scrubs and noobs. I admit, I did complain about accuracy in the past, but only in regards to firing from the hip because you shouldn't be able to make accurate headshots from long distance without even having to aim. It was so difficult to aim with the old ironsights that people would just hipfire all the time. I still think hipfire for rifle should be increased, and would be fine with having the rifle as accurate as it is now ONLY while moving (even crouched) but making it .70 accuracy while standing still.

[TheOperator]

I'm pretty fucking amazed how nobody is really bashing the SMG, don't you guys remember when it was first buffed?
It still had a shit ton of recoil but not the recoil was heavy enough to discourage people to use it at long range, and It couldnt kill people with 2 shots to the head IIRC it was 3 shots for a headshot, which is totally fine considering it fires about 750-800 rpm.
Therefor I demand a refund, I didnt pay for this game to get headshotted everytime by the SMG.

Most people who play this game now are "tweens" (I hate that word) who not only like anything full-auto just because they think its "cool" but they also suck at playing the game and like how there is now a weapon which takes NO skill to use.

I also thought .70 SMG was fine. It was still pretty strong (headshot in 2 hits, kill with 1 headshot 3 bodyshots) but accuracy was a LITTLE bit higher too (not by much) but now the accuracy to TOO accurate and headshots deal 73-75 damage versus the 50-51 damage in the last update. Not only does that make it too powerful be itself, but if you manage to evade death by an SMG user you now have so little health you couldn't avoid getting killed by even a single shot from any OTHER weapon (aside from maybe shotgun unless you are standing right next to the person firing it)

[Moonkey]

It could be lag Tek2 or fps drop(Packet loss , when the is Ben going to fix this? Douchebag.).

Wow just wow. Insult a developer/creator and you swear a bunch. If that's how you make your point you need to go learn2b nice

[Space101]

It could be lag Tek2 or fps drop(Packet loss , when the is Ben going to fix this? Douchebag.).

Wow just wow. Insult a developer/creator and you swear a bunch. If that's how you make your point you need to go learn2b nice

I'm not normal, if you havent noticed yet.

[lehma18]

I don't even bother to play this game anymore, the weapons are so unbalanced. Inb4 Putin starts his/hers "OMG SM G WUS SO UN PALANCED BEFOE, U JUST SUKC ANT KANT PLAY LEARN TO PLAY NOOB TROLOLOLO", i could deal the rifle's accuracy being left as it is currently, as i have something you obviously don't have: Brain and skill. What i can't deal with, is the smg one-shotting people in fog range, when i need to take three shots to hit anything with the weapon that is supposed to be for long-range. Don't even start your "SMG NEEDS 2 B ABLE 2 HEADSHOOT PPL AT FOG RANGE AND HAVE NO RECOIL CUZ IT USES 9mm HERP DERP"-rant. As i stated in my previous post before it was removed from the perimeters, your only knowledge of weapons obviously comes from a certain game by the name of Call of Duty, so please shut your mouth when men with IRL experience in firearms talk about things a spoiled brat like you can't possibly understand.

Even though my troll-radar isn't tingling as much as my idiot-radar, i hereby declare Putin a pathetic shadow of a troll, and advice everyone to ignore him.

[kmaj]

I don't even bother to play this game anymore, the weapons are so unbalanced. Inb4 Putin starts his/hers "OMG SM G WUS SO UN PALANCED BEFOE, U JUST SUKC ANT KANT PLAY LEARN TO PLAY NOOB TROLOLOLO", i could deal the rifle's accuracy being left as it is currently, as i have something you obviously don't have: Brain and skill. What i can't deal with, is the smg one-shotting people in fog range, when i need to take three shots to hit anything with the weapon that is supposed to be for long-range. Don't even start your "SMG NEEDS 2 B ABLE 2 HEADSHOOT PPL AT FOG RANGE AND HAVE NO RECOIL CUZ IT USES 9mm HERP DERP"-rant. As i stated in my previous post before it was removed from the perimeters, your only knowledge of weapons obviously comes from a certain game by the name of Call of Duty, so please shut your mouth when men with IRL experience in firearms talk about things a spoiled brat like you can't possibly understand.

Even though my troll-radar isn't tingling as much as my idiot-radar, i hereby declare Putin a pathetic shadow of a troll, and advice everyone to ignore him.

1. Please, don't start a flame here. Everybody has his own opinions.
2. SMG can't 1hit kill unless the target is already injured.
3. How many of the posterss do actually have IRL experience? Way less than you think.

[lehma18]

1. Please, don't start a flame here. Everybody has his own opinions.

There's no stopping of the shitstorm now, the snowball was pushed downhill long before i made my post.

2. SMG can't 1hit kill unless the target is already injured.

Well, it basically kills you instantly at any range, due to the high RoF and DMG

3. How many of the posterss do actually have IRL experience? Way less than you think.

I don't think anything.

[kmaj]

1. Please, don't start a flame here. Everybody has his own opinions.

There's no stopping of the shitstorm now, the snowball was pushed downhill long before i made my post.
Yes, but you're the one who started insulting your opponent.

2. SMG can't 1hit kill unless the target is already injured.

Well, it basically kills you instantly at any range, due to the high RoF and DMG
That's an exaggeration.

3. How many of the posterss do actually have IRL experience? Way less than you think.

I don't think anything.

You told him to "shut up when men with IRL experience in firearms talk about things a brat like he can't understand".

[lehma18]

You told him to "shut up when men with IRL experience in firearms talk about things a brat like he can't understand".

Yep, i did. I have military training, and i'd think there would be atleast a couple of guys who have been trained as well.

[TheOperator]

You told him to "shut up when men with IRL experience in firearms talk about things a brat like he can't understand".

Yep, i did. I have military training, and i'd think there would be atleast a couple of guys who have been trained as well.

I dont have any real gun experience (sadly) but im somewhat of a military otaku and know a LOT about real guns and their mechanics. I may not know as much as some other otakus, but I know WAAAAAAY more then the average american, which I suppose isnt saying very much XD

[MrHaaaaaaxFF]

People will still bitch and moan, for example, if Ben were to currently put the three weapons up and ask how they should be changed, people will have absolutly no clue how to respond. However, more than likely, the likely answers that would come up the most are
a)restoring rifles accuracy
b)nerfing smg
c)making shotgun more reliable.

Despite having a majority rule, not everyone is happy as you said. So after collaborating people defined how the smg would be nerfed ever so slightly, rifle gaining a small portion of its accuracy back, and shotgun is just flat out ignored something because people just dont seem to give a shit about it right now. A lot of forumers agree to this and sign onto it and ben then implements it. He then releases .8 which is simply a update to reduce lag and rebalence the weapons. However, still not everyone is happy. Some people wanted rifle to be (for lack of a better word buffed), and others wanted it to be nerfed further. Likewise some wanted smg to stay the same, and others wanted it nerfed further. These people then make threads on the forums bringing us back to square one. However Ben decides to ignore them. We still have a bunch of unhappy people, and the only difference now is Ben is simply catering to the majority (actually wait, thats still the same) with no leeway.

The moral of the story, Everyone has different opinions. Putin is a wonderful example.

Exactly what I had in mind. A democracy isnt freedom and equality for everyone,it is the dictatorship of the majority. If 70% of a city votes for a law that, idk, makes homossexuality illegal or forces all of the jews to get out of town, the other 30 cant do nothing because the majority wants something.

A) Is this government really a republican democracy or a pure democracy? Because I see neither. The people who really moan and complain are those forumers who don't fully understand the community, they just play the game. In my example, these are the "bad" non-voters.
B) Your voting problem is one of the things I would like to improve in this game. Members need to be more wise about their choices and how their votes will affect the game, just like those idiotic voters in the U.S. who only support the industrialist, rich, aristocrat political party because they don't know that there are better parties out there.
C) Chaos, in your example about the majority dictatorship, they only oppress such things like homosexuality and Jews because they are filled with the bias of one party. Because people are so gullible these days, political and social opinions can feed off of bias and stereotypes, making people support ideas for even the stupidest reasons.


Mr. HaaaaaaaxFF, I'm 14 and I made the article, its written so that any educated person can read it.

I said that because I sucks at English(maybe?) and you know English is not my first language(obvious)

[THEHANGTIME]

I would would like the gun too shoot where I point it, especially when it has a slow rate of fire.

And this whole "realism" argument in any game is stupid. I don't play games because they follow the laws of our world, I play them because they don't.

[Moonkey]

You told him to "shut up when men with IRL experience in firearms talk about things a brat like he can't understand".

Yep, i did. I have military training, and i'd think there would be atleast a couple of guys who have been trained as well.

Just to say, you all are going off topic. lehma18, It doesn't matter if you have military training. Training for the military doesn't mean you know how many bullets it would take to kill a man. Or how an SMG should kill you. Find something else to do than argue with children because you WON'T win.

Someone who truly trained to be in the military would know that. And so you can't backfire on me.

" 2. SMG can't 1hit kill unless the target is already injured.


Well, it basically kills you instantly at any range, due to the high RoF and DMG "

[Articsledder]

Can we just let this thread die? I originally just intended to shut up the whiners, and just went a little overboard in the OP trying to provide an argument against those who would disagree. Next time someone rants I'll ask for a lock


And yes, I have used firearms before (an old Springfield modified for hunting, and a bird shotgun)