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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Galaxy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:45 am

Like someone else had said, I think the major problem now is the drastic increase in rubberbanding/teleporting. It was bad in 0.70, now it's just flat-out ridiculous.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby TheOperator » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:28 pm

I'm sorry, but I didn't hear ANYBODY complaining about how the weapons handled at .70
In fact, many people (including myself) all thought that weapons at .70 were THE PERFECT BALANCE


Rifles suck now, if you don't like getting 1-shotted then learn how to survey for enemies and HIDE and USE COVER!

SMG is WAAAAAAAY OP, I find myself using this the most now considering how quickly it kills and I no longer have to fear rifle users from afar

Shotgun...do I even have to say anything? I have been within 15 blocks of somebody and didn't get a single hit on them. And no, its not "rubber banding" THE PEOPLE IVE SHOT AT WERE STANDING PERFECTLY STILL!

Its like youre rolling the dice each time you wanna shoot somebody, and good luck if theyre beyond 30 blocks!

WE WANT WEAPONS CHANGED BACK! EVERYBODY LIKED HOW THE WEAPONS WERE BALANCED!

Heck, I could get used to new SMG and rifle, BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD FIX THE SHOTGUN! ITS COMPLETELY USELESS NOW!!!!!!!
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Putin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:12 pm

Rifle i can still make headshots at fog range ( LEARN TO STAND STILL )
Smg i haven bellieved that it can be used to kill people ( ITS VERY GOOD NOW not op u rifle is only weapon noob's )
Shotgun i dont care about it -_-

WEAPONS ARE PERFECTLY BALANCED NOW AOS IS ENJOYABLE !!! HURAYYYYYYY
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Fluttershy » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:23 pm

Putin wrote:Smg i haven bellieved that it can be used to kill people ( ITS VERY GOOD NOW not op u rifle is only weapon noob's )
WEAPONS ARE PERFECTLY BALANCED NOW AOS IS ENJOYABLE !!! HURAYYYYYYY


hahahahaha smg balanced. no. It fires about 3 times faster than semi and does about 3/4ths the damage semi does. In addition it has 3 times the magazine size and the accuracy is only slightly worse than rifle (at this point its negligible). This isnt even mentioning the almost nonexistent recoil. Block damage has also been decreased to 2 so its even easier to woodpeck. Its a fucking death ray now. Theres a reason why SMG is just about the only weapon being used on the servers I go on.

Semi's "nerf" I can live with, Im honestly not sure what to say about shotty though, ive been using it extensively and still have no clue if its worse off or better with its gambling routine.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Vortex » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:43 pm

Instead of raging at people for raging about the accuracy of the weapons in 0.75 why don't you realise it is also about the increased rubberbanding, though I'd say shotgun is fucked in any range now.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby demo123 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:43 pm

Well i got used to semis new acuracy.(Even tought i need to use one and a half magazine to kill a guy.I ended killing him with a granade.)I used the smg a bit but as usual i suck with it.Didnt use the shotgun yet.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Putin » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:49 pm

Ok i played now near 3h and i must say its just like in 0.70 only think lag makes it harder to hit
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby DarkDXZ » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:10 pm

Putin wrote:WEAPONS ARE PERFECTLY BALANCED NOW AOS IS ENJOYABLE !!! HURAYYYYYYY


Ha[..]ha!


No.

OK, I would like to make it long and detailed, but I don't want to confuse anybody (including me) with possible cr!p I could write right now.

Keeping it short and constructive:

Rifle - I can get over it - it's rather fine, although I suck badly at any FPS games, so it's hard to tell. Overall, not too too bad.

SMG - God, this thing is now a dominating weapon! 90% of the time I get killed, it's SMG. 90% of my kills are by SMG. Seriously, this thing outclasses the rifle (in MOST situations), and totally wipes shotgun out of the play.

Shotgun - my biggest disappointment! Prior to update, I used to be very good at using shotgun, often getting many kills with it. It was fairly lethal at close range, and semi-decent at medium-ish range. NOW - it is a piece of garbage. I swear to God, that I "shot" an enemy that stood like barely a few meters in front of me, and it still didn't kill it. The spread and randomness of this gun is so big it's useless in tunnels and you quickly end up dying by either a headshot of a rifle, or a spam of SMG boolets...


Now I'm forced to stick to SMG and Rifle...Why, Ben? WHY?

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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Chikenuget » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:06 am

Fluttershy wrote:
Articsledder wrote:Then don't use it unless its in a close range map.


The accuracy is so random youre often unable to kill people at close range with it. It sucks even at close range at times.


True

Also, why are you arguing realism? Realism is always something to cut back on for the gaming experience itself.

Telling people to stop complaining won't really do much either. The point is to be heard, just like you are complaining...about people complaining. (Do you like my juxtaposition? (; )

" anyone who knows how to use the rifle can take an SM'er out quickly. "
Guess I can't use a rifle, would you agree?

I'm honestly okay with keeping the SMG damage buff, but at the moment, I can barely react to someone that can pop 5 SMG shots within a second into my body before I can get a decent shot off. (not only from medium & short range, but from LONG range as well*) I'm not saying that I need more time to aim. (Because honestly, at this point aiming is at the will of your sacred algorithm) I'm just saying that it's not even worth trying to turn around/taking the time to aim and shoot when the bullet will stray from long distance AND short distance.

What would the rifle be useful for now? With the decreased accuracy more ammo is wasted, decreased damage adds on to that as well; on top of that, you can't get the jump* on a person with an SMG from a fairly long distance (because, once again, the algorithm commences its divine intervention)

But wait, isn't that the point of the rifle?
Oh well darn, balancing isn't as important as realism! So stop complaining and get used to it!

Sometimes I feel like even a shotgun wouldn't stand a chance at close range against an SMG. 2 shots to the head, (Given the SMG's amazing accuracy....I've sniped with it before) within the same time frame it takes a person to click a mouse...well you do the statistic.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Chikenuget » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:10 am

Tank wrote:
Really, it doesn't matter how accurate a gun is or is not in real life, this is a game and the guns should be fixed so they are enjoyable to use. It just so happens that the majority of people including myself prefer 100% accuracy with the rifle as it has always been. It may have been okay if it was always not 100%, but now that it has suddenly changed, most of the people that have been playing the game for months, or almost a year even will find it a lot more frustrating than fun knowing that their shot was accurate but did not hit, then someone else effortlessly kills them. As for the 'benefits', firefights will probably not last much longer, one of the two fighting against each other is going to get lucky, which has happened to me on a number of occasions.

You don't seem to be taking into account that most of the people playing this game aren't very skilled, so if someone good at the game is finding it hard, then newcomers will most likely find it very difficult to kill anyone. Even though the waves has nothing to do with the rifle change, yes, it does make spawn camping more difficult, which is a good thing.



I always thought that people shouldn't be able to snipe with the SMG, but I could bare with it fairly well. But now that the SMG is even easier to use and the rifle is harder, I do feel that the SMG is now overpowered. When close up, you get killed very quickly. Even though this is acceptable, it's the same at longer distances, you can be killed with minimum effort from your opponent, which is not right. I find that you have to be quite good at the game to survive against an SMG user now.

Even with all of this being said, it's still just the beta and things shall be changed again, hopefully it will be soon and for the better.



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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Funk » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:15 pm

i like the new rifle is is still a great gun when not moveing.
the same with the smg.
the shot gun is just crap now
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Putin » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:57 pm

Today i played near only with rifle and it is just like a sniper now. You must stand still to aim or duck making now a tactical weapon not more run and gun with it. Smg is very good but it is bad at long range and sniping guys at trenches/Bunkers.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Fluttershy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:00 pm

Putin wrote:Today i played near only with rifle and it is just like a sniper now. You must stand still to aim or duck making now a tactical weapon not more run and gun with it. Smg is very good but it is bad at long range and sniping guys at trenches/Bunkers.


What are you talking about? Im running around getting headshots on people easily at fog range with smg
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Putin » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:03 pm

Its easy to kill a not entrenched enemy in aos at fog range. But a cleaver or good player will make a wall trench or whatever and use cover Then you will not have that luck at head-shotting .
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby TheGrandmaster » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:16 pm

One day on GH I was practically sniping with SMG. I did better with SMG than Rifle at that time. I've gotten a bit more used to how the rifle works, but it's still naff and all wrong.
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