Is the fog a core gameplay element?

[danhezee]

I was talking to tgm and mikuli about removing the fog. Both of them suggested fog is one of those aspects that make AoS, AoS. I am not completely convinced it is. I argued the fog just doesn't work on certain maps.

What do you guys think?

[mman789]

You know how the rifle has infinite range? Yeah, if we could see across the map there would be alot of random headshots.

So, since you can build towers and such, the fog is for balance purposes.

[mikuli]

You know how the rifle has infinite range? Yeah, if we could see across the map there would be alot of random headshots.

So, since you can build towers and such, the fog is for balance purposes.

The rifle's exact range is 128 blocks, the same as the maximum render distance - As far as I know.

[Fluttershy]

You know how the rifle has infinite range? Yeah, if we could see across the map there would be alot of random headshots.

So, since you can build towers and such, the fog is for balance purposes.

if you look at the map and fire your rifle (or quickly switch to the map after doing so, either or) youd see your tracer disappear after awhile, its limited. Likewise fog does little to detract from the game play. While its not a thing that makes AoS Aos (although i can understand any argument saying it was), its an aesthetic that makes it look nice by hiding the render distance.

[danhezee]

Right now all bullets / pellets are hit scans. If you remove the fog I recommend simulating bullet so that they are affected by gravity. ie you would have to make adjustments to hit targets at great distances.

[StackOverflow]

+1 for bullet drop.

I think fog rendering should have some flexibility for admins/custom maps. In the end, you'll want some fog, the rendering looks god-awful when it's removed entirely.

[MrHank]

guns firing, grenades exploding, mountains being excavated and airstrikes. Its the fog of war. Its mostly aesthetic but you cant shoot any further so why would you need to see further?

[Paratrooper]

Honestly, I wish the "Fog-o-war" is black by default.

[IrishElf]

I personally believe fog a core gameplay element, but would enjoying it being an optional choice [default = yes] while configuring a server since not everyone wants fog.

[KevinLancaster]

It would be interesting to run a fog-free server as an experiment.

[Tank]

It might be good to test shorter or longer fog, or even make it a server option. As for the bullet drop, I can't be too sure about that either, my initial opinion would be "no", but I'd have to see it in action before I can actually judge it, that would go for the fog distance as well.

[PXYC]

I like fog personally, but in mat's new client the fog seems to look 'crisper' if that makes any sense. See here to see what I mean. I guess it has a further starting point than it does now. But I would hate to see fog go, long story short.

[Gorman]

No fog sure would be interesting though.

Building big tall towers could be used to scout enemy movements for example.

The problem is of course bullets, there would definitely need to be bullet drop implemented if we wanted to remove fog.

[Paratrooper]

Also, bullets should decrease in damage the farther the target is from the shooter.

[Gorman]

Also, bullets should decrease in damage the farther the target is from the shooter.

This doesn't make much sense. Even at a few Kms bullets travel quite fast and will still kill.

Imagine Craig Harrison: "Good job you hit the guy at a range of 2.5km, but it just harmlessly bounced off the target's unprotected head".

Bullets are made to travel quite far. Bullet drop is enough, no need for senselessly unrealistically complicating things. People should be rewarded for making super long distance shots, not punished.