0.76 Discussion

[ZaPhobos]

@ei8htx Fact: A lot of people don't like the idea of having 3 times as many dueces running around randomly shooting smgs to the people using rifles that are getting kills and being productive.

So if I use SMG, no matter how skilled I am with it, does that matter I'm not being productive, even if I go and cap CPs, clear an area of enemies or am the only one capping the intel? Well that's an interesting logic you have there.


Anyway, the rifle IS NOT intended to be an all-around good-for-everything gun. Ben is doing the right thing, making the Rifle a long-range gun, THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. The SMG is intended for medium-range engagements, jackhammering and frontline work, the Shotgun is intended for close-range infiltration/personal defense when building tunnels.

I'm talking about noobs who spray with the smg, if you're good with an smg, that's great, use it. But for the most part, people who use smgs don't know how to use them properly.
Then explain why it was the first, and for quite a while, the only gun in the game.

It doesn't need a reason to be first. It simply was the first weapon implemented. Now with other weapons, he is giving it checks and balances for it to be the long range weapon he wants it to be.

No comment on SMG.

[Afrodude4]

I'm fine with checks and balances, that's a great way to form the game. But 5 bullets in a magazine? That's ridiculous. I think that bringing it down to 8 is a good enough debuff.

[ChaosTLW]

I'm fine with checks and balances, that's a great way to form the game. But 5 bullets in a magazine? That's ridiculous. I think that bringing it down to 8 is a good enough debuff.

Eh, I also think that 5 bullets in a magazine is a tad low, IMO the optimized value would be 7.

[Fluttershy]

I'm fine with checks and balances, that's a great way to form the game. But 5 bullets in a magazine? That's ridiculous. I think that bringing it down to 8 is a good enough debuff.

Anything more than 5 is honestly a crutch for bad players to lean on, you shouldnt need more than 5 shots to begin with when you have a hitscan, perfect accuracy, one hit weapon.

10-round magazine, I get 3-5 kills out of that, which is quite good. I don't need 10 rounds, but 5 rounds is far too small. The RoF is fine in the .75 update, that should not be changed. If it were to be reduced, rifles would be far too powerful, if it is increased, that makes it useless.

you have your terminology backwards, if the rate of fire is increased, its firing faster, and if its decreased, its firing slower. And no, slowing down its rof doesnt make it useless.

Also, it has become apparent to me that you don't understand thr concept of a semi automatic rifle. They are NOT for sniping, that is not how they were made to be used in the game, and it most certainly is not how a semi auto is used IRL. Ask Ben to add a sniper rifle, rather than ruining the semi trying to make it a sniper.

what would a sniper offer in a game where viability is limited (so scoping is pointless), and theres already a blazing fast, pinpoint weapon that one/two hits people and has a massive ammo reserve?

Rifle should have 5-Bullets and Rof lowered it is something like a sniper 1shoot kill and huge accuracy.

It isnt the best solution but it sure as hell is a step in the right direction. Im disapointed in Ben for backing off about this.

[Afrodude4]

I'm fine with checks and balances, that's a great way to form the game. But 5 bullets in a magazine? That's ridiculous. I think that bringing it down to 8 is a good enough debuff.

Eh, I also think that 5 bullets in a magazine is a tad low, IMO the optimized value would be 7.

I think that is also a very good compromise. It's high enough for people who aren't using rifles for purely long distance fights. And it's low enough for people not to be able to spam rifle bullets.

[Sniper101]

I'm fine with checks and balances, that's a great way to form the game. But 5 bullets in a magazine? That's ridiculous. I think that bringing it down to 8 is a good enough debuff.

Eh, I also think that 5 bullets in a magazine is a tad low, IMO the optimized value would be 7.

I think that is also a very good compromise. It's high enough for people who aren't using rifles for purely long distance fights. And it's low enough for people not to be able to spam rifle bullets.

5 is enough. The semi is supposed to be used for defensive purposes.

Or at least I thought it was.

[Afrodude4]

But you would be incredibly suprised to see how many people are able to use the semi extremly effectively when attacking the enemy directly.

[ZaPhobos]

But you would be incredibly suprised to see how many people are able to use the semi extremly effectively when attacking the enemy directly.

And he wants to change that so its for more defensive and cover fire purposes.

Remember, we have little say in this, unless a whole crowd roars for something.

[Afrodude4]

I just hope that he sticks to the .76 version that is out now.

[Mehrunes]

Shitgun is no longer shitgun, but Diarrheagun right now, since Diarrhea can be fired more faster than shit right..?... RIGHT?!

[ZaPhobos]

Shitgun is no longer shitgun, but Diarrheagun right now, since Diarrhea can be fired more faster than shit right..?... RIGHT?!

Yes, now it is a faster spreading machine. Still unreliable due to the pellets becoming cotton candy at anything farther than 25 blocks.

[Sniper101]

Shitgun is no longer shitgun, but Diarrheagun right now, since Diarrhea can be fired more faster than shit right..?... RIGHT?!

Yes, now it is a faster spreading machine. Still unreliable due to the pellets becoming cotton candy at anything farther than 25 blocks.

Reminds me of the AA-12 in CoD.

[Th3MaN1]

I've been thinking about:

- Body customization (Color, uniforms, gloves( different hand color), helmets etc.)
- Secondary weapons:
1. 9mm
The fast, but weakest pistol with little damage but a big magazine (compared to the other pistols).
2. 1911
The balanced weapon , average Rate Of Fire, "average" magazine but stronger than the pistol.
3. Desert Eagle/Revolver
The slowest, but strongest weapon with a little magazine with ALMOST pin-point damage.

-Tweaks to Rifle, SMG and Shootie
1. Rifle - I dunno about other versions, but the rifle should have a slightly better accuracy with 8 rounds per mag.
2. SMG - Smaller range.
3. Shootie - Slightly better rate of fire and 8 shells.

[Afrodude4]

Tweaks to Rifle, SMG and Shootie
1. Rifle - I dunno about other versions, but the rifle should have a slightly better accuracy with 8 rounds per mag.
2. SMG - Smaller range.
3. Shootie - Slightly better rate of fire and 8 shells.

Basically, this works.

[wrpen]

Okay, so I have version 0.76, but it seems most server are still in 0.75. I can't join any of the servers, and I can't redownload 0.75 because I already have 0.76. What do?

TL;DR: Version conflict with most servers because they don't update. What do?