Destroying Enemy Buildings, Griefing or tactics?

[XFrostByteX]

So, today I was on a pinpoint map. The enemy had a base. Naturally I snuck up and took out the very thin support the building had. Once it was destroyed, I was kicked for griefing.

So, my question is, if you are destroying an enemy base, does it count as griefing? I don't believe so at all, but the people that kicked me must've thought so. I look at it as tactical sabotage. Without a base there, they are defenses. Right before I got kicked I saw my allies rush in and snatch the intel while the greens were still trying to rebuild.

[UNDERCOVER]

So, today I was on a pinpoint map. The enemy had a base. Naturally I snuck up and took out the very thin support the building had. Once it was destroyed, I was kicked for griefing.

So, my question is, if you are destroying an enemy base, does it count as griefing? I don't believe so at all, but the people that kicked me must've thought so. I look at it as tactical sabotage. Without a base there, they are defenses. Right before I got kicked I saw my allies rush in and snatch the intel while the greens were still trying to rebuild.

No, that's not griefing, that's called "sapping".

It's actually encouraged to sap enemies structures.

[IrishElf]

]No, that's not griefing, that's called "sapping".

It's actually encouraged to sap enemies structures.

Precisely this. Anyone who votekicks for sapping is either a deuce or trying to make the round easy by kicking the other team or both.

[heracles4]

Well it depends. If you're griefing a tactical point like a bridge or something it is tactics.
If you're destroying the build of that guy on the other team in A1 who isn't fighting and is building a cozy little house, THAT is griefing.

[sportsfan2]

Also, sapping is when you destroy the enemies' structures when you are on the OTHER team.

DO NOT: switch to green, destroy Green defenses and then switch back to blue saying you were just sapping.

Deuces have actually done this and when accused said that they were "sapping" -_-

[Floob]

Well it depends. If you're griefing a tactical point like a bridge or something it is tactics.
If you're destroying the build of that guy on the other team in A1 who isn't fighting and is building a cozy little house, THAT is griefing.

I may be alone on this. But if you are not on my team. I can do what i want with you and your builds.

Just because you are not using your gun. does not give you the right to use a player slot to play pretend Minecraft.

To the OP:
If you are doing something that benefits your team, it is not griefing.

This includes:
1- knocking down anything that restricts access to the home tent.
2- Punching sniper holes, and doorways into poorly designed walls.
3- Clearing trees or pirate ships, that provide cover for the opposing team. (pre-made structures)
4- Griefer garbage created to obstruct your teams movement. Or provide enemy cover.

There are many legit reasons to break blocks that your team placed.

You will know when you are just being a dick. That is the definition of griefing. There are differing opinions. So votes will happen.

[IrishElf]

Well it depends. If you're griefing a tactical point like a bridge or something it is tactics.
If you're destroying the build of that guy on the other team in A1 who isn't fighting and is building a cozy little house, THAT is griefing.

If the enemy team built it it's absolutely fair game to destroy it unless your team is using it.
If the enemy team is using it then again, fair game to destroy.

Those deuces building their autistic garbage in the back of the map can screw right off. There's build servers and minecraft if they feel like making pixel "art".

[Bongo]

Those deuces building their autistic garbage in the back of the map can screw right off. There's build servers and minecraft if they feel like making pixel "art".

^THIS^

And it's a pity that trying to stop people on your own side from doing this is technically griefing.

[TheGunnerGuy]

Ur no griefing bro, It's "sapping" of course. I think they are just mad they wanna make the match easier without sappers.

SAME AS ONE OF THE COMMENTS ABOVE: Do not spy by joining the enemy team and grief there, VERY ANOYING

[ChaosTLW]

If your team is using it: Griefing
If the enemy is using it: Tactical destruction. It feels so good when you tunnel under a small enemy structure and start to make a cave below it, then make it fall inside the cave.

[ozone]

in my opinion there is a formula for it and it goes like this
ET= enemy team AT= friendly team De =destroy U =you UE=using st= structure
ET> UE>ST.....U>De = no greifing
AT>UE>ST......U>De = greifing

Hopefully you all understand that

[Tigershield]

in my opinion there is a formula for it and it goes like this
ET= enemy team AT= friendly team De =destroy U =you UE=using st= structure
ET> UE>ST.....U>De = no greifing
AT>UE>ST......U>De = greifing

Hopefully you all understand that

WTF is this for @!# haha.

[Airsoftr]

It's simple. Griefing would be destroying your own team's buildings. It is not:

Taking down any of the other team's structures
Taking down 1 block high map blobs

If you're destroying the build of that guy on the other team in A1 who isn't fighting and is building a cozy little house, THAT is griefing.

That guy will think you're going to kill him, understandably. So he'll defend himself. Why would you be in the very corner of the other team's side if you weren't going to kill players?

[Scipion]

Of course it's allowed. It's just that servers are full with deuces lately.

[SuckMyVox]

Doesn't matter if it's for defense or for aesthetics. If it's an enemy structure, it's fair game.