0.75 Discussion

[lehma18]

The shotgun is useless in %95 of all the maps because you need to engage at mid-long range.

The SMG is useless cause it normally takes a full clip to kill someone, and you only get a few clips. Fix this by making it more accurate.

The rifle is stupid, because it takes 3-5 shots to get a headshot normally, cause of the accuracy.

All the guns are too inaccurate. It's BULLSHIT! We need more accurate guns, the whole game is now based on luck.

Are you fucking kidding me? It takes 2 headshots to kill someone with the smg

[Fluttershy]

I made you a guide, be thankful.

[Varun]

The only time I've seen the shorty. Used regularly is on arena servers where people use it as a last stand camping tool. Yknow, hide in a blind spot, and give the guy about to come in a blast at absolute point blank range. That's the only time and place I see it being regularly used.

[Paratrooper]

Just practice with the weapons. You won't normally expect a shotgun to work on a flat field. If you want to play with the shotgun, play in a map with rolling hills and structures.

[Fluttershy]

The only time I've seen the shorty. Used regularly is on arena servers where people use it as a last stand camping tool. Yknow, hide in a blind spot, and give the guy about to come in a blast at absolute point blank range. That's the only time and place I see it being regularly used.

The reason people only really use it on arena is because everyone is forced onto a premade small map where shotgun excels. People are just too lazy to actually build/dig shit and utilize it properly on any other game mode.

[Varun]

Yeah, and sorry for the crap grammar and full stops all over the place. I decided not to sleep at all, plus I'm on my iPad, which decides that autocorrect and all that crap is going to dictate what I type.

Only the clueless and the lazy use the shotgun these days, for the majority.

[ChaosTLW]

Your solution is to aim for headshots, even though the SMG is not accurate for anything else except spray-and-pray?

And I should build some maps for better shotgun usage. Well if thats the case stop whining about AoS not running on your netbook and BUILD yourself a better computer.

And while you're at it build a better map so the rifle does not need an boost.

And while you're at it decompile AoS and fix the problems yourself.

And the game actually has two close-range weapons and one long-range weapon. SMG's are SUB-MACHINE-GUN'S. Like Uzi's and MP5's. The vanilla SMG is actually a MP5. Used for close range combat. We really should have an assault rifle for mid-range combat.

Anyway, it seems the best, most accurate weapon in the game is the spade. Maybe I should make a map for the spade...

Why would we even need a new weapon that is a copy of one we already have? IMO, we should change the name of the SMG to an Assault Rifle, just a name change, with a slight decrease in damage. Because right now it already is one.

[Fett316]

@ Benton, weak argument, friend. The shotgun is more useful than you think, you just have to adapt a different playing style.

You're wrong on the smg too. Crouch, use cover and pick your shots, and you'll become just as dangerous as a semi-user.

If you can't get kills, either give up, draw fire for your teammates, or focus on knocking down enemy structures. Building defenses and alerting your team to enemy positions is also helpful.

"rifle iz stuupid, smg=spray a nd prya, shtgoun is uslesee, hurrrdurrr!1"

Give me a fk'in break.

[ChopChopThePanda]

The shotgun is useless in %95 of all the maps because you need to engage at mid-long range.

94%? Say me the maps U can't play it.

The SMG is useless cause it normally takes a full clip to kill someone, and you only get a few clips. Fix this by making it more accurate.

spraying in the air, usually dont get kills.

The rifle is stupid, because it takes 3-5 shots to get a headshot normally, cause of the accuracy.

To make a kill "right-klick-aim-onhead-leftklick" . this is 1 shot.

All the guns are too inaccurate. It's BULLSHIT! We need more accurate guns, the whole game is now based on luck

Your Inaccuracy is just bad aim.

[ThisFrickinSite]

personally i have a problem with the smg and rifle because the rifle landing shots is too uncommon, and smg takes people generally 3 shots to my face, but 5 from me to them.

[MrMeow]

Gee, That makes me feel good about using the shotgun...
Although I do better with the SMG.

[Benton]

rifle iz stuupid, smg=spray a nd prya, shtgoun is uslesee, hurrrdurrr!

Give ME a fk'ng break. I never said the guns were stupid. I said the balancing is. I can kill %85 percent of everyone I engage with, with any gun. It just annoys me when I aim right at the head and the bullet hits the block next to the guy, then the guy SMG spams me.

94%? Say me the maps U can't play it.

You can play it in every map, but all around it is useless because as soon as you get 30 away from your target it is totally luck.

spraying in the air, usually dont get kills.

I never spray unless there are like 5 guys all packed together. I aim and shoot three shot bursts.

To make a kill "right-klick-aim-onhead-leftklick" . this is 1 shot.

Some of the time this is true.

Your Inaccuracy is just bad aim.

The inaccuracy of your post is kinda funny.

I find the shotgun very useful, however I also feel limited by it. Mostly because of the luck factor on accuracy.

If AoS is going to have realistic inaccuracies with it's weapons, it should also have bullet drop, and the sights should not stay perfectly still. I think a better option is to have s w a y i n g sights, but perfect accuracy. Realistic, and all skill based. Bullet drop would be nice too.

[SuckMyVox]

The SMG is useless

You owe me a new pair of pants buddy because you just made me laugh so hard I just pissed mine. (not really but...I still want some free pants!)

The rifle is stupid, because it takes 3-5 shots to get a headshot normally, cause of the accuracy.

Let me fix that for you.

The rifle is stupid, because it takes 3-5 shots to get a headshot normally, cause I'm trying to play on a server halfway across the world or cause I can't aim worth a crap.

There. Much better.

[Paratrooper]

What you're saying:
"All the weapons suck because I can't use them properly. If you can't change the user, change the gun because obviously these guns suck."

[MegaDeuce]

Shotty: I tried out the shotty on Gen Wars the other day after a loooooong time not using it. Actually wound up getting about as many kills as I did with the semi, and it was fun to ninja my way towards the enemy :)

SMG: My favorite thing about the SMG is its range-versitility.

You can be shooting a guy 100 blocks away, then be surprised by a guy popping up at your elbow, and STILL come out with a win. Try that with the semi... unless you're no-scoping it's not gonna be pretty.


Conclusion: Don't use the shotty on maps where you can't sneak around. Don't use the semi to kill snipers. Unless they're in the cliffs on Hallway.