Ammunition Crates & Health Crates

[AEM]

Ooops, sorry I did not understand what you meant. You see you need to empty a about third of a semi's clip to kill with the body. Also, the smg has not really been nerfed. In the pursuit of playability, an smg needs to have low damage, to couter balance the fire rate. Also, with burst firing and crouching, its possible to kill people with an smg at great distances, which is not right.

It needs to be buffed in terms of damage. I'm pretty sure nobody can survive up to three bullets to the head. Realism.

[ChaosTLW]

Most of the time, gameplay>realism.
I do agree that we could have a higher damage SMG, but I think it would need higher spread and/or recoil, to counter that, so you can't just go sniping with it like we can do now.

Oh, and SMG kills in 2 bullets to head, and 3 if 1 is headshot and the other two bodyshots. Get your facts straight before saying cereal :)

[Dhoz]

I like that, i really HATE run without bullets like Rambo with a Spade...

[AEM]

Most of the time, gameplay>realism.
I do agree that we could have a higher damage SMG, but I think it would need higher spread and/or recoil, to counter that, so you can't just go sniping with it like we can do now.

Oh, and SMG kills in 2 bullets to head, and 3 if 1 is headshot and the other two bodyshots. Get your facts straight before saying shit :)

First of all if you had read my previous post, you would have saw that I corrected myself. Second of all Doc is going warn you for that last word you said. Just sayin'...

[ChaosTLW]

I don't see it anywhere on this thread. What post lol?

EDIT: Ohhh, I just saw it, it was in another topic >_>
So, sorry then bro.

[AEM]

Forgiven, sorry on my part for posting it on another topic.

[Varun]

I constantly have the problem of ammo conservation. With a semi, you have a fair few bullets, but when you run out, if you last long enough, you have a problem. You have no way of defending yourself from others with guns, and if you are in enemy territory, getting to the cp is going to be tough. These would solve that.

3 things solve that:
1. Only shoot when you know you can hit him
2. Fire in bursts, its more accurate, and it doesnt waste ammo
3. Stay as hidden as possible to get to the intel and back to cp and whatnot, im a ninja, so ive mastered that task.


But with this ammo conservation, i've been in the master of the art, CS:S teaches a man good. You should try it sometime.

I often use up every bullet I have to get at least 50 kills. So I make sure that my bullets go to a good cause.

[AEM]

I constantly have the problem of ammo conservation. With a semi, you have a fair few bullets, but when you run out, if you last long enough, you have a problem. You have no way of defending yourself from others with guns, and if you are in enemy territory, getting to the cp is going to be tough. These would solve that.

3 things solve that:
1. Only shoot when you know you can hit him
2. Fire in bursts, its more accurate, and it doesnt waste ammo
3. Stay as hidden as possible to get to the intel and back to cp and whatnot, im a ninja, so ive mastered that task.


But with this ammo conservation, i've been in the master of the art, CS:S teaches a man good. You should try it sometime.

I often use up every bullet I have to get at least 50 kills. So I make sure that my bullets go to a good cause.

I don't see what other causes there are besides shooting them in air or destroying blocks, but your idea is valid.

[robotnik185]

Here's my awesome idea for how ammo crates should work:

1) Ammo crates can be deployed randomly or where the server host wants them.

2) Ammo crates don't let the players change weapons

3) Ammo crates start off full, but aren't an infinite ammo fountain, they have a limited number of EACH type of ammo: shells, rifle rounds, SMG rounds, and grenades.

4) Players can refill the crates.
..... A) Players refill crates by pressing a "dump ammo" key
..... B) Players can dump grenades or bullets, depending on whether they're holding a grenade or a gun.
..... C) As an incentive, the crate refills with 3x the amount of ammo the player is actually dropping
..... D) However, once ammo is dropped, the player can't take ammo from that crate until he respawns.
..... E) The player can only dump ammo that isn't currently loaded in their gun

This will add a new "supply line" element to the game. A handful of players can resupply a given crate, and help their whole team hold a strategic point.

+1

[HalonieBologna]

I like the bullet sign better for the ammo crates, because it is more specific.

[LASTofS]

I constantly have the problem of ammo conservation. With a semi, you have a fair few bullets, but when you run out, if you last long enough, you have a problem. You have no way of defending yourself from others with guns, and if you are in enemy territory, getting to the cp is going to be tough. These would solve that.

Yeah, I have this problem as well. Sometimes I just run and try and grab a few grenade/spade kills before I suicide.

[ahm99]

I would go with the bullet sign. As for how they are placed, I would consider adding a class system. Like assault - can place ammo boxes, medic - can heal people and place ammo boxes. Classes would add an interesting twist.

[Varun]

I constantly have the problem of ammo conservation. With a semi, you have a fair few bullets, but when you run out, if you last long enough, you have a problem. You have no way of defending yourself from others with guns, and if you are in enemy territory, getting to the cp is going to be tough. These would solve that.

Yeah, I have this problem as well. Sometimes I just run and try and grab a few grenade/spade kills before I suicide.

Its not too hard for me on Aloha pinpoint, basically the only server that doesn't lag the shit out of me, because I just head back to the cp, but I get seriously pissed when I get killed by random smg noobs who just spray the hell out of the area around me and get a couple of lucky shots that he would not have been able to land if I had ammo. Not Cool >:'(

[gamebox3000]

I think the supply crate should be an alternate option to the grenade. It would let people play more of a support role if they wanted to, Instead of an offensive roll.

Edit: a class system also would be bad because it would restrict the sandboxy eliminates in the game.

[Varun]

^Apparently ammo crates are going to be flying from the sky.