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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby SuckMyVox » Mon May 14, 2012 5:56 pm

People don't like campers when it isn't them doing the camping. When they/their team is doing the camping you'll hear no complaints.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby scarfacemperor » Mon May 14, 2012 10:59 pm

Thinking about that, we should add a word replacement when saying "camper" alone in a message would be replaced by "I have a Lemming tactic and am proud of serving as cannon fodder". That would be fun, wouldn't it ?
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Fluttershy » Tue May 15, 2012 12:03 am

scarfacemperor wrote:Thinking about that, we should add a word replacement when saying "camper" alone in a message would be replaced by "I have a Lemming tactic and am proud of serving as cannon fodder". That would be fun, wouldn't it ?


Hey guys be aware that theres a spawnI have a Lemming tactic and am proud of serving as cannon fodder slightly north of spawn.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Varun » Tue May 15, 2012 8:59 am

hindos wrote:
Varun wrote:But there is not much you can do about aimbotters. Also, if an entire team can't take out a single camper, then you have a serious problem.. Using the deathcam can help you find them, and it really is not hard if you have decent reflexes. I've seen people who take about 5 seconds before they actually move after being spawned. Those are the ones who get owned by campers, because they lack the reflexes to just move. If you move and jump around, its hard for a camper to hit you, and then you can retaliate. Once you know where he is, he loses most of his advantage.

Campers don't stand a chance if the server is full, but in most server it isn't so they get more then enough time to back-headshot you before you can react even if you know exactly where they are hiding. Also they sometimes come in groups, I noticed this in a tower map football stadium map, there were 3 spawncampers, all shooting from different sides. No team can stand against that...


It works itself out actually. If you take out one or two at a time, then you should be able to push them back. Its happened to me before, and all you can do is do your best to take a couple out before you die. They almost always get pushed back. Its the law of balancing and crap. Fortune will leave their side and you will be able to push them back.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby AlexKirchu » Wed May 16, 2012 11:32 am

Spawn-camping for me isn't really a problem...at least not on the map I play on. Besides, often if you are killed by a spawn-camper, you can deduce with logic where the camper is, then rat him out. All campers get found eventually. If they can't be found, then the team being camped on have serious mental problems.

As for the snipe-camp which people may complain about, it is a tactic. Smart people use this tactic. It ensures a high kill rate with a low death rate (depending on the map, this may vary). People who rush and charge out are quite stupid and prone to being killed very easily. Sure, it's brave and manly, but to the enemy team, its like "Oh, a free kill, yay!" *headshots enemy*.

I usually play on Goon Haven 1, where spawn-camping is virtually non-existent. I usually snipe from behind a two-thick wall. Occasionally I change spots. Personally I'd say I'm a very good anti-sniper in general. I mostly one-shot any enemy sniper, and if I don't, I persist until I win (obviously if he gets me first then...well...I respawn and go back to get revenge).

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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Varun » Wed May 16, 2012 11:57 am

AlexKirchu wrote:Spawn-camping for me isn't really a problem...at least not on the map I play on. Besides, often if you are killed by a spawn-camper, you can deduce with logic where the camper is, then rat him out. All campers get found eventually. If they can't be found, then the team being camped on have serious mental problems.

As for the snipe-camp which people may complain about, it is a tactic. Smart people use this tactic. It ensures a high kill rate with a low death rate (depending on the map, this may vary). People who rush and charge out are quite stupid and prone to being killed very easily. Sure, it's brave and manly, but to the enemy team, its like "Oh, a free kill, yay!" *headshots enemy*.

I usually play on Goon Haven 1, where spawn-camping is virtually non-existent. I usually snipe from behind a two-thick wall. Occasionally I change spots. Personally I'd say I'm a very good anti-sniper in general. I mostly one-shot any enemy sniper, and if I don't, I persist until I win (obviously if he gets me first then...well...I respawn and go back to get revenge).

Snipers > Rushers


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Why charge at the enemy, and get 1 kill for every 5 deaths when you can get like 20-30 kills per death if you use your mind instead of being, and I quote:
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Danqazmlp » Wed May 16, 2012 12:37 pm

Varun wrote:
AlexKirchu wrote:Spawn-camping for me isn't really a problem...at least not on the map I play on. Besides, often if you are killed by a spawn-camper, you can deduce with logic where the camper is, then rat him out. All campers get found eventually. If they can't be found, then the team being camped on have serious mental problems.

As for the snipe-camp which people may complain about, it is a tactic. Smart people use this tactic. It ensures a high kill rate with a low death rate (depending on the map, this may vary). People who rush and charge out are quite stupid and prone to being killed very easily. Sure, it's brave and manly, but to the enemy team, its like "Oh, a free kill, yay!" *headshots enemy*.

I usually play on Goon Haven 1, where spawn-camping is virtually non-existent. I usually snipe from behind a two-thick wall. Occasionally I change spots. Personally I'd say I'm a very good anti-sniper in general. I mostly one-shot any enemy sniper, and if I don't, I persist until I win (obviously if he gets me first then...well...I respawn and go back to get revenge).

Snipers > Rushers


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Why charge at the enemy, and get 1 kill for every 5 deaths when you can get like 20-30 kills per death if you use your mind instead of being, and I quote:
brave and manly



Because if you're good enough you can get 3-10 kills per death while rushing which helps the team win the game. Unless you are defending, camping doesn't help the team at all really.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Varun » Wed May 16, 2012 12:45 pm

Well it does sort of help the team, especially if you coordinate. If you, or you and a couple of others, can camp the other team, someone from your team will have a chance to grab the intel. I've seen this many times, and am usually a part of it. Especially on 1ctf maps. If you can camp your enemy, they have to deal with you, or risk being shot in the back of the head.

It is also helpful on team deathmatch servers.

Also, rushers have a very uncertain fate. Its easy for a rusher to just walk straight into a couple of smgers. Even if you are careful, its fairly easy to be killed by a whim of fate. A teammate drawing fire to you, or obstructing your path. A random grenade that should not have hit anyone.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby DrSandwich » Thu May 17, 2012 12:03 am

It's not camping, it's 'tactical waiting'.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Doctor » Thu May 17, 2012 12:06 am

DrSandwich wrote:It's not camping, it's 'tactical waiting'.

I believe you are correct, I always attempt to apply the 'tactical waiting' when I join a new server, as it opens new defending and attacking opportunities for me and my colleagues.
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