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[Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby Frostified » Mon May 14, 2012 5:36 pm

I decided to make this in order to help out the effort to get rid of hackers, so that newbies and other people would know what to do in a situation like this.

The Guide
You're playing peacefully on a server, and you notice that there is this one player on the server who is racking up a good ratio quickly... too quickly. You also notice that he NEVER misses a headshot, and he mysteriously always knows where everyone is.
Before I go into more depth in this guide, I just want to seperate hackers into five groups:
Group A: Deuce Hackers
These hackers are your average joe hacker, they are generally quite stupid, arrogant and don't really care too greatly about the game. These hackers will hack and make it obvious and they won't bother to hide that they're hacking. And during interogation; they won't be able to cover up that they're hacking. You can tell them apart from legit players because they will be snapping like mad ("they won't bother to hide that they're hacking"). They are a quick votekick away from eradication.
Group B: 'Hunter' Hackers
These hackers don't use the aimbot, instead they just use radar hacks. These hackers are much harder to prove guilty of hacking since they could either be lucky or they are really good at knowing where players are. Always take your suspicion that they're hacking with a pinch of salt.
Group C: Teleporters
These hackers are bloody annoying, they teleport all over the map. Usually they will just teleport to the enemy base and spawn camp the enemy. There are two ways of checking if these guys are hacking:
1. If you're on their team, look at the map and check if a blue player icon is dashing around the map.
2. If you're on the enemy team, check the killfeed after a teleporter has died, he will probably teleport back into the enemy base, and get killed again. If there is a short period of time inbetween his first and second death, he is probably hacking. WARNING: There is a confirmed glitch that can give the appearance that a player is teleport hacking since instead of spawning in his base he will spawn on his dead bodys location. These people are not hacking!
Group D: Speed hackers
These guys are as old as the hills. If you see a player quickly zooming around the map, then he's hacking. Just use the ol' votekick to get rid of him.

And finally the most complex hacker that requires their own guide in order to get rid of...
Group E: 'Smart' hackers
Now, these guys are EXTREMELY hard to get rid of sometimes. Not only because they hide their hacks well but also because of the idiocity of your fellow players.
Smart hackers are players who use aimbots and esp (usually), when they play they hide their hacks by rarely snappng (lining up their sight before shooting) and by using the ESP stealthily.
Here is the guide to getting rid of these annoyances.

I use the three E's when I try to get rid of hacking:
[*]Evaluate
[*]Evidence
[*]Eradicate

Let's break these down a bit:
Evaluate
Suspect someone of hacking? First, what you'll want to do is double check your suspicsions. First check their ratio, you can do this by typing /ratio [Playername/PlayerID]. If their ratio seems fishy (e.g 100.0 100 kills 1 death) then they may be hacking, It'd be a good idea to jot this down.
Second, check their accuracy. You can do this by typing /accuracy [Playername/PlayerID]. If the'r accuracy with the rifle (hackers usually use the rifle) is 90% - 100% then they are hacking. The average player accuracy is below 50%.
Last, go into spectator. This can be a little hard because as DE said:
"When I went into spectator, they guy stopped hacking. He must've realized I was onto him" -DeathEnhanced.
You have to be quick going into spectator, you need to do it without being seen. Try switching whilst someone (e.g Mikuli) is raping the killfeed. Once in spectator, you can observe the player and check if he is snapping, and if he is finding enemies easily.

Evidence
Take screenshots, put stuff in notepad, record etc. and save it. Go onto the servers IRC channel (if you know it) or go onto #AoS (They'll be happy to help) show the Operators (Usually the admins of the servers) the evidence. They will then forward this infomation to GBL admins (Global Ban List).

Eradicate
Now with proof of the player hacking, he should get banned or global banned (banned from every server). And you can rest happy knowing...
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On a final word, a few last things:
Directed towards new players, be careful when accusing some people of hacking, don't be arrogant and skip some of the E's, and don't go trying to ban some of the trusted people of community or bad things could happen, like you could ban the wrong people:
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Or worse:
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Finally, something I really want to get of my chest; or christ sake people, even if they are helping your team win, kick them regardless! They are ruining the game!

Thank you for reading this guide.
-Frosty

P.S to votekick type /votekick [Playername/PlayerID] [ReasonHere] and type /y to vote.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby SuckMyVox » Mon May 14, 2012 6:15 pm

Unless a "hacker" is flying or floating in mid-air, screenshots don't prove anything. Even then, lag can sometimes causes players to "fly".

Also, FYI "teleporting" which is usually caused by lag is also built in to servers for players with admin rights on said server. Sometimes believe it or not, some less than scrupulous individuals abuse their power.

Also, you forgot one other category of hacker...EVERYONE. Because, that's what I hear every game. Anyone that kills anyone else is OBVIOUSLY hacking. I see people that join a server, get one kill and are immediately accused of haxxoring.

Especially, if they do it repeatedly, even if you keep getting killed in the exact same spot and continue running right back to that spot. There is no other possible explanation but "HAX!".

Then there's the "All of your kills are headshots!" argument. I don't know the exact hitboxes (but I can guess) but I'm pretty sure most rifle users aim for the head regardless so if they do get a kill it's probably going to be a headshot.

So, all these "obvious" signs that someone is hacking is more often a really good player, a camper, maybe that "TOTALLY NOT OBVIOUS" spot you're sniping from isn't so totally not obvious or someone who knows the map or who doesn't suck as much as the guy who claims everyone else is hacking.

It's also funny because most of these heated accusations of hacking go back and forth between the two players with the most kills on the server and on opposing teams.

As I understand it AoS implements some anti-hack features. How well they work I don't know but I do know that the server does a "line of sight" check and I have yet to see players being killed as soon as they spawn by a player on the other side of the map (ala the Counterstrike hacker) or bullets going around or through walls (except when penetrating weak blocks) so the LoS check does seem to work. Most likely repeated spawn kills are some "L33T" campers than hackers.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby Danqazmlp » Mon May 14, 2012 6:32 pm

SuckMyVox wrote:Unless a "hacker" is flying or floating in mid-air, screenshots don't prove anything. Even then, lag can sometimes causes players to "fly".

But screenshots of their ratios and accuracy do.


Also, FYI "teleporting" which is usually caused by lag is also built in to servers for players with admin rights on said server. Sometimes believe it or not, some less than scrupulous individuals abuse their power.

Even so, it does no harm to bring this to the attention to the rest of the playerbase.

Also, you forgot one other category of hacker...EVERYONE. Because, that's what I hear every game. Anyone that kills anyone else is OBVIOUSLY hacking. I see people that join a server, get one kill and are immediately accused of haxxoring.

Especially, if they do it repeatedly, even if you keep getting killed in the exact same spot and continue running right back to that spot. There is no other possible explanation but "HAX!".

Then there's the "All of your kills are headshots!" argument. I don't know the exact hitboxes (but I can guess) but I'm pretty sure most rifle users aim for the head regardless so if they do get a kill it's probably going to be a headshot.

So, all these "obvious" signs that someone is hacking is more often a really good player, a camper, maybe that "TOTALLY NOT OBVIOUS" spot you're sniping from isn't so totally not obvious or someone who knows the map or who doesn't suck as much as the guy who claims everyone else is hacking.

The methods used in the OP aren't simply looking at who is getting kills or camping, it's actually using evidence to get hackers. People will always be better than others and immature players will always think others are hacking. This guide however is an aid to proving somebody is a hacker and getting them dealt with.

It's also funny because most of these heated accusations of hacking go back and forth between the two players with the most kills on the server and on opposing teams.

Really? Normally when I see them it's somebody with 0-10 kills and another with 50+. On the servers I use, if somebody with a high k/c thinks another is hacking, they are usually right.

As I understand it AoS implements some anti-hack features. How well they work I don't know but I do know that the server does a "line of sight" check and I have yet to see players being killed as soon as they spawn by a player on the other side of the map (ala the Counterstrike hacker) or bullets going around or through walls (except when penetrating weak blocks) so the LoS check does seem to work. Most likely repeated spawn kills are some "L33T" campers than hackers.

The problem is that anti-hacks are always going to be reactionary and very rarely pre-emptive. Because of this, with a small team of indie developers, it may take a little while for measures to actually be implemented. Until then, it's up to the playerbase to be mature about their accusations, and try to find legitimate evidence when there are real hackers.


I personally didn't know you could check other people's ratio and accuracy, so will definitely be checking those out. Maybe also mention that sometimes it can be useful to /admin when there is a suspected hacker, so that they can also check them out.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby HoboHob » Mon May 14, 2012 6:46 pm

How did danhezee get banned for hacking?

Whoever reported him must have been an idiot.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby ChaosTLW » Mon May 14, 2012 6:47 pm

HoboHob wrote:How did danhezee get banned for hacking?

Whoever reported him must have been an idiot.


What about impersonation?
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby Danqazmlp » Mon May 14, 2012 6:52 pm

ChaosTLW wrote:
HoboHob wrote:How did danhezee get banned for hacking?

Whoever reported him must have been an idiot.


What about impersonation?


Or simply somebody who doesn't use the forum?
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby IrishElf » Mon May 14, 2012 6:56 pm

Good guide, hopefully it'll cut down on some things, like;

>Group of deuces spawn, run in a column formation into an SMG's sights and get obliterated
>Obviously the SMG user was hacking.

>One guy is repeatedly mowing down an entire team the second they spawn and getting 1hit bodyshot kills with rifle
>"He isn't hacking, it's skill."

>Squad of deuces keep walking into the same area over and over and over again and getting obliterated by SMG fire
>Again, the SMG user is hacking.

>Someone is getting fog range 1shot SMG kills almost non stop.
>skill, not hacking.

>Someone joins server and an hour later has two kills and a .09 ratio
>He's obviously hacking.

That shit is why I despise these deuces that form the majority of the community.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby USABxBOOYO » Mon May 14, 2012 7:31 pm

Danqazmlp wrote:
ChaosTLW wrote:
HoboHob wrote:How did danhezee get banned for hacking?

Whoever reported him must have been an idiot.


What about impersonation?


Or simply somebody who doesn't use the forum?

*cough*Photoshop*cough*

All of the GBL admins know who those people are.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby SnIpEr » Mon May 14, 2012 9:22 pm

Frostified wrote:Second, check their accuracy. You can do this by typing /accuracy [Playername/PlayerID]. If the'r accuracy with the rifle (hackers usually use the rifle) is 90% - 100% then they are hacking. The average player accuracy is below 50%.

I wouldn't trust the accuracy command, because:
1. Multiple bullet is now toggable in the most used (if not the only one) publically release daimbot, and most people would just choose the "auto-aim to the head" option and ignore the multiple bullet since its easy to detect with the aimbot2.py;
2. sometimes the aimbotter will try shooting at blocks as an attempt to kill the players behind them, and, though it is rare, the aimbot can miss sometimes.
so you will most of the times end up catching aimbotters with 30-50% accuracy... the one you call "The average player accuracy".
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby SuckMyVox » Tue May 15, 2012 5:16 am

There is no truly ultimate guide to catching hackers.

I've played countless games where "famous" players who had been playing for ages who had "godly" skills were repeatedly accused of hacking. They posted "proof" videos that showed it was skill not hacks. They even had other players, mods and game admins vouch for them personally. Anyone who dared call them a hacker on the forum was derided as a stupid noob. These players would even collect screenshots of players accusing them of hacking and post them on the game forums to boast how awesome they were and make fun of the dumb nubs. Players would get warned or banned for posting accusations against them.

And then sooner or later...a new patch to the anti-cheat software comes out and BAM! These long-time, revered, feared, respected members of the game community get banned for haxxoring and everyone is just shocked and horrified while the people who knew it from the beginning are just like..."YOU DON'T SAY".

I've also seen server Admins abuse their powers, banning anyone who got a stray kill on them, banning anyone they deemed "too good" but were in reality just "average" and repeatedly banning people who were not hackers, had not violated any game rules, hadn't even said a single bad word about anyone. Occasionally, the game admins would take away certain player's server hosting and admin rights but it literally took hundreds of reports, screenshots and videos showing the Admin in question banning entire enemy teams, cussing and call people very derogatory racial names and so forth.

I've even seen anti-hacks ban hundreds and thousands of players wrongly before, watched the devs viciously deny that anyone was wrongly banned and then when enough prominent community members got banned as well only then would they admit maybe something was wrong.

The point is there's no fail-safe. Any average, skilled or even godly player could be a hacker...or just an average, skilled or godly player.

The best method though IMO is staying abreast of these losers making and using these hacks and to patch/update the game's hack detection to catch them. It works best when the Devs don't announce they've patched the anti-hacks and then beginning recording the accounts of hackers and then a week, two weeks or a month later issue a mass ban for all of them at the same time. If you ban (edit: typo) one or a few at a time, you'll only catch a handful. This way ^^ you create the most tears.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby TheSifodias » Tue May 15, 2012 5:33 am

There is no truly ultimate guide to catching hackers.

I've played countless games where "famous" players who had been playing for ages who had "godly" skills were repeatedly accused of hacking. They posted "proof" videos that showed it was skill not hacks. They even had other players, mods and game admins vouch for them personally. Anyone who dared call them a hacker on the forum was derided as a stupid noob. These players would even collect screenshots of players accusing them of hacking and post them on the game forums to boast how awesome they were and make fun of the dumb nubs. Players would get warned or banned for posting accusations against them.

And then sooner or later...a new patch to the anti-cheat software comes out and BAM! These long-time, revered, feared, respected members of the game community get banned for haxxoring and everyone is just shocked and horrified while the people who knew it from the beginning are just like..."YOU DON'T SAY".


Good point except for the end. A good example of this was Pain^3. However, very rarely do any players, even the most suspicious, ever find a smart hacker.

I've also seen server Admins abuse their powers, banning anyone who got a stray kill on them, banning anyone they deemed "too good" but were in reality just "average" and repeatedly banning people who were not hackers, had not violated any game rules, hadn't even said a single bad word about anyone. Occasionally, the game admins would take away certain player's server hosting and admin rights but it literally took hundreds of reports, screenshots and videos showing the Admin in question banning entire enemy teams, cussing and call people very derogatory racial names and so forth.

I've only really seen this happen on servers where admins are overly immature. Most server hosts(Clan Servers, GH Servers, Minit, and others) review applications or only accept players they can really trust. But if the server host is immature, then there is a problem.

I've even seen anti-hacks ban hundreds and thousands of players wrongly before, watched the devs viciously deny that anyone was wrongly banned and then when enough prominent community members got banned as well only then would they admit maybe something was wrong.

Thousands? Maybe only one every 20 games or so...

The point is there's no fail-safe. Any average, skilled or even godly player could be a hacker...or just an average, skilled or godly player.

The best method though IMO is staying abreast of these losers making and using these hacks and to patch/update the game's hack detection to catch them. It works best when the Devs don't announce they've patched the anti-hacks and then beginning recording the accounts of hackers and then a week, two weeks or a month later issue a mass ban for all of them at the same time. If you hack one or a few at a time, you'll only catch a handful. This way ^^ you create the most tears.


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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Tue May 15, 2012 6:40 am

50%?
i think it's more like, 30-40%.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby SuckMyVox » Tue May 15, 2012 7:20 am

Well, what I wrote above in my previous post doesn't apply to everyone. My point is unless you have a good anti-hack with at least semi-regular updates mistakes will be made. Legit players may be unfairly banned and Cheaters may continue to cheat while professing to be legit.
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Re: [Guide] The Ultimate Guide To Busting Hackers!

Postby corn99 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:18 am

one good way to prevent hacks is that before you download the game you have to agree to this: "Admins can view your AoS window when ever they want" this can let admins see for them selves instead of using different ways thats might be not completely failproof.
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