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Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby scarfacemperor » Wed May 09, 2012 9:16 pm

Hi, there is something I don't understand : why do some players always complain about campers, which are players who choose to defend - so I prefer the term "defenders" ?

Complaining about defenders is stupid in my opinion as defenders are very helpful. An example of that : Recently I played on the map Assault, from the up team, and used a defensive line dug in the wall, with multiple windows (constantly changing of window), to shoot enemies. 38 kills, 0 death - enemies didn't see me at all during the match, ground allies were a great distraction. I had almost the best score and surely prevented enemie from attacking our base, and what was my team's reaction ? "camper"

Why do they hate defenders so much ?
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby HoboHob » Wed May 09, 2012 9:42 pm

Because it is so annoying to be killed a million times to a guy who isn't brave enough to show his face.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Articsledder » Wed May 09, 2012 9:47 pm

HoboHob wrote:Because it is so annoying to be killed a million times to a guy who isn't brave enough to show his face.



In the end of the day though, the person who doesn't show his face isn't dead.

Those who are truly brave enough figure out a way to flank/counter snipe/do something against the camper/sniper.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Danqazmlp » Wed May 09, 2012 9:51 pm

The only campers I find annoying are those who will hide, backwards facing against the intel. Essentially, they will be hiding a few squares from the intel but completely hidden until one grabs the intel. It doesn't take any skill to simply click without moving the mouse.

Also, Tent campers in TOW are annoying simply because they can't be seen. Not because they are strategically good, but because they are becoming invisible inside an object.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby scarfacemperor » Wed May 09, 2012 10:28 pm

@ Danqazmlp => I personly prefer a longer-ranged version of this tactic, keeping the intel in a clear area in my line of sight.

@ Articsledder => Exactly, I always say that a spotted sniper is a dead sniper. And flanking enemies while most of your team attacks : an hammer to distract enemy, and a knife in the back to kill him.

@ HoboHob => the most important against a sniper is to SPOT him. Look from where his shots come, not always easy when you are the target, but useful if the sniper shoots one of your teammates. Once you have spotted his location, try to sneak to him. Usually, snipers don't expect anyone to find them at close range, they're more focused on killing enemy snipers. Also, once he is spotted, using the SMG to perform suppressing fire (fire toward him, to dissuade him from shooting) is a great tactic to stop him for some time

That's also why I always make bunker-lines with many 2-blocks-deep windows : the deep windows make me harder to spot as my body stays in shadow, and I very often change window to avoid being spotted. And even if I'm spotted, I just have to spot the counter-sniper, change window and kill him. I know where he is, he doesn't know from which window I'll shoot.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Ultrayoshi49 » Wed May 09, 2012 10:40 pm

People that say campers are cowards are the ones that get shot.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby MrMeow » Thu May 10, 2012 12:55 am

They aren't a problem for me, I usually die once or twice then I find their location and shoot or throw a grenade in.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby ThisFrickinSite » Thu May 10, 2012 1:29 am

Reason why they complain: They cant find them so they go back to the same place over and over trying to find them and when they finally rage, they blame the dude who is camping.

Reason why they shouldnt: They do it too proabably. If your stupid enough to go back to a place so many times when you know there is an unseen danger, your the retarded one. He is probably only camping because he knows that there will be an oblivious player standing in the exact same spot every 20 seconds or so.

Remember that this is jsut one situation of hating campers... there are several others.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Priok » Thu May 10, 2012 2:16 am

unless you are being instantly killed at the spawn, it really is not that big of a problem. if a guy hiding behind a wall or in a tower is really bothering you that much, just destroy the wall or tower. the semi is very good at breaking blocks now
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby USABxGUNSLINGER » Thu May 10, 2012 2:35 am

I only hate campers when they're camping the spawn, anything else is just good tactics
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby TheGeekZeke101 » Thu May 10, 2012 2:37 am

Campers can take the fun out of rushing and such. I know when I get killed by campers I feel tingly and sense rage in my body. Though, campers are just an excuse for playing port imo.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Fett316 » Thu May 10, 2012 2:38 am

I do it to establish a defensive point for my team. People get mad because the concept of defense eludes their under-developed little brains. Changing their strategy to adjust to the fight at hand is also beyond them.

And as Ben himself stated before, it's part of the game.

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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Fluttershy » Thu May 10, 2012 3:02 am

Id say its because camping is often associated with spawn camping, which is understandable since you often cant fight back. Other wise its just people bitching about a tactic they were killing by.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby Galaxy » Thu May 10, 2012 3:34 am

I've never understood the people who complain about camping, either. With AoS being the way it is, camping is one of the most useful techniques due to the building/tunneling aspect of the game.

I'm actually more annoyed by the kids who run around spraying and praying like this game is <insert generic FPS that we all know about>. Especially when they run out in the open, get killed (quite easily), then have the nerve to bi­tch about campers.
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Re: Why do so many players hate campers ?

Postby razor10000 » Thu May 10, 2012 7:40 am

Camping? What the hell do you think snipers do? They don't just charge into battle and quick-scope. Real sniper do camp. Actually, I don't think that's the correct word, it's more like defending.
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