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Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Putin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:11 pm

Ok I want you to ask does this makes sense and is it balanced
( THIS IS ABOUT 0.76)

SEMI ( Rifle )

1. Damage 180 head (instant)
3 shoots Body ( on close 2 bullets ! )

2. Its 100% accurate at move , jump , stand , crouch , piss and etc.

3. Rate of fire 120RPM ( 2 bullets in a fucking second with 100 percent accuracy !!! )

4. Two Shoots to break block ( Not just Deadly against infantry even a good break weapon -_- )

5. Very low Recoil For such a weapon

6. It hold 8 Deadly bullets why 8 ?
Make it at least 5 to have a nice number , and that One mag from Semi can't kill like 5 soldiers in row ...
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Putin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:12 pm

So Tell me Isn't it a "bit" overpowered ?
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Carrotstick » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:40 pm

Stop complaining.
End of story.
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Varun » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:13 pm

My advice you - Use the gun you hate on so much. :P
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby mikuli » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:04 pm

Ok I want you to ask does this makes sense and is it balanced
( THIS IS ABOUT 0.76)

SEMI ( Rifle )

1. Damage 180 head (instant)
3 shoots Body ( on close 2 bullets ! )
HAHAHA No. Long range headshots often leave you with 1-10 hitpoints.

2. Its 100% accurate at move , jump , stand , crouch , piss and etc.
Yep, and that's how it should be to keep things interesting instead of every player just ducking. Mobile targets are more fun to shoot at.

3. Rate of fire 120RPM ( 2 bullets in a fucking second with 100 percent accuracy !!! )
Nope. 90RPM-ish in 0.76. Rate of fire was slowed down


4. Two Shoots to break block ( Not just Deadly against infantry even a good break weapon -_- )
yeah you take those two shots at a block against a skilled opponent. oh wait, you're dead after the first, nevermind.

5. Very low Recoil For such a weapon

6. It hold 8 Deadly bullets why 8 ?
Make it at least 5 to have a nice number , and that One mag from Semi can't kill like 5 soldiers in row ...
8 is pretty few.


All i can see is a guy complaining when he can't drive a nail into a plank with a saw. The rifle should well beat an SMG-player at far ranges. Mid-close it's about the difference in skill, nothing else.
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby DrPain » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:21 pm

Well, very good question
What is it overpowered compared to?
The answer is obviously the shotgun

I personally do think that the developers did not do a good job balancing the new weapons, and even as they continue to cycle between buffs and nerfs, they still aren't fixing anything

A good nerf for the rifle would be to make it a bolt-action rifle

A good nerf for the submachine gun would be to make it's recoil high enough so that you would have to fire in bursts at long range

Submachine gun is way too accurate right now as it is
And rifle is way too versatile, and has the oneshot headshot
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby HoboHob » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:00 pm

Rifle should be OP.

Everything else should suck :)
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Putin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:23 pm

Carrotstick wrote:Stop complaining.
End of story.

Very constructive "Thumbs up"

Varun wrote:My advice you - Use the gun you hate on so much. :P

Yep I will have to use it better then aproving my self to kids on the Forum ...

@mikuli

1. It is in 99% a Instant kill i tried maybe only a really really far target that cant be even clearly seen in the fog can survive the falloff from 180DMG ...

2. It really isn't fun its idiotic to run and shoot 100% accurate at fog range ... Also a Dynamic croshair would make players more static meaning they would build defences and not just run from point A to point B Shooting Headshots with Rifle ...

3. its not 90RPM-ish look at the Wiki ( its updated look at version ) http://aceofspadeswiki.com/index.php/Rifle

4. Sure learn to crouch :)

6. Hahahaha 8 bullets is " pretty low " hahaha you are or trolling or really stupid really cant figure out the third XD


@ DrPain

Nope it was the SMG :)
Yep all fixes are just iritating also i would like that the semi becomes a powerfull acurate bolt-action rifle not a powerfull acurate Semi-auto Rifle

Nah you knew the smg needs like 5 or more Headshoots to kill at long range ( 0.76 ) so boosting recoil hm... that would be bad....

@HoboHob

U'r Right totally , better 1 good weapon then 3 unbalanced ...
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Tek2 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:36 pm

Putin wrote:3. its not 90RPM-ish look at the Wiki ( its updated look at version ) http://aceofspadeswiki.com/index.php/Rifle

Just saying that I wouldn't trust the wiki that much. :P People are lazy and make errors.



What I would really want to see is give the weapons more accuracy, but less damage/rate of fire.
This would really reward careful aiming and lessen frustration to random spread while giving a nice learning curve for the game.

Also adjusting the damage fall off could give every weapon a nice niche.

-Shotgun pointblank
-Smg short range
-Assault rifle medium range
-Semi med-long
-Sniper extra long
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby ChaosTLW » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:53 pm

Tek2 wrote:
Putin wrote:3. its not 90RPM-ish look at the Wiki ( its updated look at version ) http://aceofspadeswiki.com/index.php/Rifle

Just saying that I wouldn't trust the wiki that much. :P People are lazy and make errors.

Exactly. The Wiki article has only the magazine stats changed, the damage and RoF stats are the same as older versions.
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Benton » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:14 pm

When I used the rifle when I tested .76 it was way harder to use then the one in .75. And the SMG was way easier. Don't give me that bullshit.

The SMG needs way more recoil.
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Articsledder » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:45 pm

Will you stop complaining, it's getting very annoying. If you don't like it go away.
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Fluttershy » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:30 pm

mikuli wrote:All i can see is a guy complaining when he can't drive a nail into a plank with a saw. The rifle should well beat an SMG-player at far ranges. Mid-close it's about the difference in skill, nothing else.


Rifle is broken as it is in the latest release. In fact, its been broken ever since smg was introduced.

Articsledder wrote:Will you stop complaining, it's getting very annoying. If you don't like it go away.

What a fantastic way to improve the game.

Tek2 wrote:-Shotgun pointblank
-Smg short range
-Assault rifle medium range
-Semi med-long
-Sniper extra long

Do we really need a sniper and assault rifle when smg and rifle pretty much already are an assault rifle and a very fast firing sniper respectively?
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby ugotpiez » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:34 pm

Tek2 wrote:
Putin wrote:3. its not 90RPM-ish look at the Wiki ( its updated look at version ) http://aceofspadeswiki.com/index.php/Rifle

Just saying that I wouldn't trust the wiki that much. :P People are lazy and make errors.



What I would really want to see is give the weapons more accuracy, but less damage/rate of fire.
This would really reward careful aiming and lessen frustration to random spread while giving a nice learning curve for the game.

Also adjusting the damage fall off could give every weapon a nice niche.

-Shotgun pointblank
-Smg short range
-Assault rifle medium range
-Semi med-long
-Sniper extra long


I'm fine with Shotgun, SMG, and Semi.
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Re: Rifle ( The holy Rofle ) Are this stats Normal ?!

Postby Aeroclaw » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:35 pm

I rofleed at this post (Reference to the holy Rofle)
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