Please learn to build bridges.

[Dany0]

With the awesome click and drag build introduced, you'd think players would learn to build quick bridges for better transport. But no. After what-seems-to-be-half-a-year of running "SEXY SERVER FOR SEXY PEOPLE" with my procedurally generated islandish maps (search for Greece and pyspadesplus on the forums) my understanding is that the regular player thinks bridges are great. And should be griefed in order to get banned. But no, never ever should he build one. I even saw a few instances of team spirit. A cooperated tactical attack on the enemy command post. And you know how they got there? Over my bridges. That someone griefed later. No one even bothered. And some people even prefer going into water instead of going over the wide, safe bridge. Have you ever seen a bridge over the river in Triplefox's random? Rarely, and only in tundra. Now that's understandable. The river mostly appears in the middle. It's not safe to build it there. But on a map like Greece/pyspadesplus? Come on!

I came here in 0.58. Back then players would build bizarre forts with great sniping positions. And from time to time, they'd grow the forts so big they would have to connect them... With bridges! Now they can't even snap two brain cells to come up with this genius thing, make a bridge! They're cheap and easy to do.

Here's my theory: too much custom maps with no water area separating the two teams.

~Sleepy Dany

[Articsledder]

I agree. I always build them. I guess the issue is most people don't remember how much of a pain in the ass water was at one point.

Also there seem to be 3-4 hackers in your server atm.

[IrishElf]

It's actually hilarious.

Whenever I see bridges up regardless of server and/or map there's always at least one mouth breathing retard griefing them because "they aren't necessary" and votekicking anyone who stops him via TKs.

[jdrewlowery]

With the awesome click and drag build introduced, you'd think players would learn to build quick bridges for better transport. But no. After what-seems-to-be-half-a-year of running "SEXY SERVER FOR SEXY PEOPLE" with my procedurally generated islandish maps (search for Greece and pyspadesplus on the forums) my understanding is that the regular player thinks bridges are great. And should be griefed in order to get banned. But no, never ever should he build one. I even saw a few instances of team spirit. A cooperated tactical attack on the enemy command post. And you know how they got there? Over my bridges. That someone griefed later. No one even bothered. And some people even prefer going into water instead of going over the wide, safe bridge. Have you ever seen a bridge over the river in Triplefox's random? Rarely, and only in tundra. Now that's understandable. The river mostly appears in the middle. It's not safe to build it there. But on a map like Greece/pyspadesplus? Come on!

I came here in 0.58. Back then players would build bizarre forts with great sniping positions. And from time to time, they'd grow the forts so big they would have to connect them... With bridges! Now they can't even snap two brain cells to come up with this genius thing, make a bridge! They're cheap and easy to do.

Here's my theory: too much custom maps with no water area separating the two teams.

~Sleepy Dany

i only played on your server ounce to see what grece was like . but yea i came in the begining of .75 and back then people would at least try to bild something . isnt anything we can do .i think ill get on your server more often then just because you posted this . :)

[ugotpiez]

Well . . . idk if this is griefing, but I use the bridges that were part of the original maps as traps, just wait for the other team to cross it, and just destroy it, I usually get someone across first, too, in secret. :P Fun stuff when the entire killfeed is just "Deuce1 fell too far.".

[CobaltCloud]

I was playing a tug of war map that made bridges MANDATORY. The main focus ended up being:
Get on bridge
kill people on bridge
make bridge better
defend.
That doesnt happen anymore though. I miss it. :(

[zephir]

bridges offer little cover to those whose on it. unless you build a very complex "crooked bridge" you basically channel everyone into a single file line, it's like shooting fish in a barrel for any half decent enemy sniper

the other reason why bridges aren't built is because of griefers. sappers are rarely a serious concern, really only griefers have the time and access (and immunity) to destroy the bridge.

and finally bridges are pros and cons. a well built bridge can deliever your team someplace quickly and efficiently, however is you cannot retain the bridge it can be used against you and in general well-build bridges are difficult to sap...

I generally like to destroy bridges. not intentionally griefing. it's security- if we cannot secure it it will be used against us. for that reason i also cut forests down, and level small towns because if my team cannot secure/occupy those areas they'd be used against us by enemy snipers. I only destroy bridges that can be used against me, I leave ones like between two forts alone.

[Dany0]

Zephir you're so wrong.

First, walking through water is even worse, you're slow and can't run away from enemy fire. Second, griefers are not of concern, because rebuilding a bridge costs almost nothing because you can just build it while going through water, which you'd have to do anyway. Third, if you really want a secure bridge just build walls around it. Fourth, it gives an enormous attack and flank advantage. You can build bridges that go around the enemy forces, you can also build a number of bridges to lead the enemy into a trap.

And at last, if you intentionally grief bridges, you're going to get banned. This is not a subject of discussion.