STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

[Zinger]

There are other ways to nerf guns than reducing the accuracy. I would much rather see the rifle's rate of fire reduced over seeing an accuracy drop. Luck is never a valid substitute for skill. Dropping the accuracy creates a luck factor in rifle-fights.

As for the shotgun, here's how I would change it. Right now, at medium to long range it is very lucky to hit an oppenent, but shots that hit do a good amount of damage. Instead of that, all shots should hit, but they should do far less damage past a certain point. It isn't a buff because the average damage would be the same for both cases, but skillful aim is better rewarded. This removes the dice-roll factor and at the same times keeps the current weapon balance intact.

[Paratrooper]

Create a sniper weapon.

[Ultrayoshi49]

Don't worry Arctic, they'll get used to it eventually. Like I did. Getting 100 kills with nothing but a shotty really helps.http://imgur.com/11Hdl

[TheOperator]

Don't worry Arctic, they'll get used to it eventually. Like I did. Getting 100 kills with nothing but a shotty really helps.http://imgur.com/11Hdl

I bet those over sized gun models help you spot enemies through thin walls.


Seriously ben, I thought you mentioned something about limiting weapon size for this update. But like usual you neglect the important game balancing improvements and add useless broken crap like dice-roll shotgun and 2-shot block destroying rifle.

[kmaj]

There are other ways to nerf guns than reducing the accuracy. I would much rather see the rifle's rate of fire reduced over seeing an accuracy drop. Luck is never a valid substitute for skill. Dropping the accuracy creates a luck factor in rifle-fights.

As for the shotgun, here's how I would change it. Right now, at medium to long range it is very lucky to hit an oppenent, but shots that hit do a good amount of damage. Instead of that, all shots should hit, but they should do far less damage past a certain point. It isn't a buff because the average damage would be the same for both cases, but skillful aim is better rewarded. This removes the dice-roll factor and at the same times keeps the current weapon balance intact.

[Chikenuget]

Don't worry Arctic, they'll get used to it eventually. Like I did. Getting 100 kills with nothing but a shotty really helps.http://imgur.com/11Hdl

Just getting 100 kills isn't much of an accomplishment....I don't see what that has to prove.. |:

It's not that I'm doing terribly, there are just certain situations that shouldn't happen.

http://i.imgur.com/INmnm.png

http://i.imgur.com/0kVx0.png

http://i.imgur.com/pea8Y.png

[DarkDXZ]

There are other ways to nerf guns than reducing the accuracy. I would much rather see the rifle's rate of fire reduced over seeing an accuracy drop. Luck is never a valid substitute for skill. Dropping the accuracy creates a luck factor in rifle-fights.

As for the shotgun, here's how I would change it. Right now, at medium to long range it is very lucky to hit an oppenent, but shots that hit do a good amount of damage. Instead of that, all shots should hit, but they should do far less damage past a certain point. It isn't a buff because the average damage would be the same for both cases, but skillful aim is better rewarded. This removes the dice-roll factor and at the same times keeps the current weapon balance intact.

[Ultrayoshi49]

Don't worry Arctic, they'll get used to it eventually. Like I did. Getting 100 kills with nothing but a shotty really helps.http://imgur.com/11Hdl

I bet those over sized gun models help you spot enemies through thin walls.


Seriously ben, I thought you mentioned something about limiting weapon size for this update. But like usual you neglect the important game balancing improvements and add useless broken crap like dice-roll shotgun and 2-shot block destroying rifle.

Lol what, how could you call my models "over-sized" in any way? They're just normal sized mods bro...

[Paratrooper]

Don't worry Arctic, they'll get used to it eventually. Like I did. Getting 100 kills with nothing but a shotty really helps.http://imgur.com/11Hdl

I bet those over sized gun models help you spot enemies through thin walls.


Seriously ben, I thought you mentioned something about limiting weapon size for this update. But like usual you neglect the important game balancing improvements and add useless broken crap like dice-roll shotgun and 2-shot block destroying rifle.

Lol what, how could you call my models "over-sized" in any way? They're just normal sized mods bro...

Judging from the looks of it, it is waaay oversized.

[Tek2]

Judging from the looks of it, it is waaay oversized.

I must say that I don't find them to be oversized.

[kmaj]

Judging from the looks of it, it is waaay oversized.

I must say that I don't find them to be oversized.

imho they're big but not oversized.

[philli101]

i dont really mind

[TheOperator]

If you have a gun that protrudes a complete body-length forward beyond your character, not only is it too big (and just looks silly) but it allows people to spot characters behind 1-block walls on account the gun sticks through. I consider this to be a form of cheating, and ben does too (he has said so)

[USABxBOOYO]

Sometimes people just end up having big guns as the result of the dimensions of the gun. They don't have any intention of cheating this way. It's not like the people who put lasers on their guns.

[MrHaaaaaaxFF]

Sometimes people just end up having big guns as the result of the dimensions of the gun. They don't have any intention of cheating this way. It's not like the people who put lasers on their guns.

Makes me thinking 'bout my in progress MSR... Its pretty long AND i dont have intention to make it long to cheat.(Havent test it ingame lulz)


Wait..... I have a felling that this thread is getting derailed....
So heres the thing:
Rifle was NEVER pinpoint accurate(since 0.4 or something) and im ok with it. Althrough its annoying, but DEAL WITH IT.
So now i heard people said:"Blah blah blah drop accuracy makes rifle turned luck-based blah blah blah" BUT if it was increased AGAIN, it will make the game WAY too easy. Left the rifle as it now, so it would require MOAR skill to use it effectively.

SMG is quite powerful, but remind you: its for mid-long range. Able to shoot enemy for fog range is normal. But its seem to be over-powered in close-range.(Or it just me?)

Shotgun? People said its sh*tgun now, but again: its for short-range. I used it quite alot and it feels normal to me. Maybe a little bit too short through, but its good for me.