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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby greace » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:56 pm

GamingFTW wrote:I think Ben should release it and ask the Community if we like it, if we don't he can take it out, Thats what I think. I just want to see if its good for the game.

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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby IrishElf » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:54 pm

@lehma

>Implying slower gameplay means more tactical

Yeah, no. A good rifleman can easily compensate for sprint by leading his target and the possibility of sprint will likely lead to a great number of one way front line obstacles. Besides, claiming somethings gonna kill [X] before you've even seen it in action is a bit premature.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby greace » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 pm

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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby danhezee » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:01 pm

lehma18 wrote:
danhezee wrote:The public servers have never really had much teamwork. Sometimes a small group would come together to build something amazing or rush the enemies.

LIES
Back in the day when i started playing, (I think the game was in 0.24 or something like that) people played with the team, becourse they had to. It was also fun as hell, when you killed a bunch of people they said "Whoa man, had no chance. Nice" or "Wow, you're good" instead of "YA MOTHERFUCKIN N00B CAMPER!!!", "HE HACKS 4 SURE!!!!!" and "OMG, *insert the weapon you're using here* IS SO FUCKING OP!!!!!!"
*Sigh* The golden days will never return.. :(


Nope, 0.24 had hacks that were worse than anything we have now, those were the days when speed hackers would level a gen in minutes. If you remember that was around the time the master server was shut down for a week because of the hacking. Ben was going to walk away from the game because of the nonsense going on in game. Everyone called each other names, absolutely nothing that resembled team work happened. Yea, I'll give you the fact everyone used preexisting tunnels, they didnt help make them and they would grenade kill themselves if the tunnel wasnt complete. The only difference between now and then is the GBL which has made the public server much more enjoyable.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby Fluttershy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:15 pm

lehma18 wrote:Yes, but i could have avoided that fictional situation if not for sprinting.

Oh, i get it. But then again, they can be destroyed in seconds due to the new griefer's wet dream-spade.

Oh, by the way, why people use the rediculously shitty shotgun? It doesn't fit into almost any maps, and is useless at range. The SMG can be used to kill a sniper at fog-distance no problem, but what the duck, shotgun?



Wait, are you saying that after you shoot, 9 more people will all happen to go towards where you are? Because thats what im getting now. Quite frankly thats YOUR fault for staying in the same spot, simply start moving around.

kill them while they destroy it, consider it that fort you wanted to explode and your bullet is the dynamite.

ahahaha
shotgun isnt shitty mate, the problem is no one bothers to use it right. One of the things people fail to do with it is actually change the environment so you dont get raped as soon as you step 20 ft from spawn. If people would bother making walls, trenches and tunnels, shotgun would be much more viable on every map. But ofc, people dont and see it as a shit weapon because they just snipe people that keep running out in the open hoping to shotgun snipe people (or perhaps they just base it off of their own horrendous experience that could've been avoided with simple buildings).
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby lehma18 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:25 pm

danhezee wrote:
lehma18 wrote:
danhezee wrote:The public servers have never really had much teamwork. Sometimes a small group would come together to build something amazing or rush the enemies.

LIES
Back in the day when i started playing, (I think the game was in 0.24 or something like that) people played with the team, becourse they had to. It was also fun as hell, when you killed a bunch of people they said "Whoa man, had no chance. Nice" or "Wow, you're good" instead of "YA MOTHERFUCKIN N00B CAMPER!!!", "HE HACKS 4 SURE!!!!!" and "OMG, *insert the weapon you're using here* IS SO FUCKING OP!!!!!!"
*Sigh* The golden days will never return.. :(


Nope, 0.24 had hacks that were worse than anything we have now, those were the days when speed hackers would level a gen in minutes. If you remember that was around the time the master server was shut down for a week because of the hacking. Ben was going to walk away from the game because of the nonsense going on in game. Everyone called each other names, absolutely nothing that resembled team work happened. Yea, I'll give you the fact everyone used preexisting tunnels, they didnt help make them and they would grenade kill themselves if the tunnel wasnt complete. The only difference between now and then is the GBL which has made the public server much more enjoyable.

I'm not sure where you have played, but i haven't seen any of that crap you talk about. Except for the hackings, they were horrible. Where i played, people slammed only the hackers, maybe super-good players were called aimbotters, i don't know, since i sucked balls back in the day. But i learned, as did everyone else. You can't seriously think the players are more mature than they were back in the day.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby lehma18 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:31 pm

Fluttershy wrote:
lehma18 wrote:Yes, but i could have avoided that fictional situation if not for sprinting.

Oh, i get it. But then again, they can be destroyed in seconds due to the new griefer's wet dream-spade.

Oh, by the way, why people use the rediculously shitty shotgun? It doesn't fit into almost any maps, and is useless at range. The SMG can be used to kill a sniper at fog-distance no problem, but what the duck, shotgun?



Wait, are you saying that after you shoot, 9 more people will all happen to go towards where you are? Because thats what im getting now.

They will, if they have any sense on how to play this game.

Quite frankly thats YOUR fault for staying in the same spot, simply start moving around.

Yeah, run into the no-mans land and get shot by snipers.

kill them while they destroy it, consider it that fort you wanted to explode and your bullet is the dynamite

Pretty tricky. If i start spading 'em away, they rain grenades at me. More simple to lure them into the bunker, wait for them and blast them to bits. It's also more awesome that way.

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shotgun isnt shitty mate, the problem is no one bothers to use it right. One of the things people fail to do with it is actually change the environment so you dont get raped as soon as you step 20 ft from spawn. If people would bother making walls, trenches and tunnels, shotgun would be much more viable on every map. But ofc, people dont and see it as a shit weapon because they just snipe people that keep running out in the open hoping to shotgun snipe people (or perhaps they just base it off of their own horrendous experience that could've been avoided with simple buildings).

Who has the nerve to build all of that crap, when griefers come and rip it apart?
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby Fluttershy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:36 pm

lehma18 wrote:Who has the nerve to build all of that crap, when griefers come and rip it apart?


Which is why you rebuild, this is another reason why click n drag will be a good addition (mostly in respects to the wall, tunnel/trench griefing isnt as common/dangerous to fix unless theyre hanging around and camping for you to come back).
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby danhezee » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:44 pm

lehma18 wrote:You can't seriously think the players are more mature than they were back in the day.


How did you jump to that conclusion? I said or at least tried to imply A) people have never really worked as a team, which is true I can get Ben to verify; B) they never really had anything nice to say; again I can get Ben to verify; C) The people that ruined the game have been removed via the GBL, which has made the game much more enjoyable. The proof is in the playercounts, we were struggling to reach an average of 300 concurrent players before the GBL. Now we are averaging well over 1000 concurrents. On a side note, I hope we hit a peak above 2000 this weekend.

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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby lehma18 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:47 pm

Fluttershy wrote:
lehma18 wrote:Who has the nerve to build all of that crap, when griefers come and rip it apart?


Which is why you rebuild, this is another reason why click n drag will be a good addition (mostly in respects to the wall, tunnel/trench griefing isnt as common/dangerous to fix unless theyre hanging around and camping for you to come back).

I'm a fan of slowpaced, tactical gameplay, but man, i don't want to use 95% of my time rebuilding shit that i have made.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby Fluttershy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:49 pm

lehma18 wrote:I'm a fan of slowpaced, tactical gameplay, but man, i don't want to use 95% of my time rebuilding shit that i have made.


Im surprised by at how much you detest building yet preach about the need for tactical gameplay.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby mikuli » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:21 pm

So wait, how will the ability to move a bit faster for a short period of time make the game any faster paced? It's not like everyone is going to start flying around with jetpacks at 300km/h. At best, it will give you a chance to dodge a couple of shots or dash for cover - just one more tactic to learn for surviving in the battlefield.

Also, what danhezee said is true - the pubs were a cesspool back in the day. I'm pretty damn sure our userbase is more mature nowadays.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby Dany0 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:35 pm

mikuli wrote:So wait, how will the ability to move a bit faster for a short period of time make the game any faster paced? It's not like everyone is going to start flying around with jetpacks at 300km/h. At best, it will give you a chance to dodge a couple of shots or dash for cover - just one more tactic to learn for surviving in the battlefield.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby PXYC » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:52 pm

I'm not going to judge it until I actually get to test it, but I don't like the idea so far.
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Re: Sprinting is confirmed.

Postby CommanderCody » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:58 pm

well click and drag would advise block griefing,and if that happens,griefers should be punished more harshly
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