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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Moonkey » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:05 am

In other words, Ben needs to use a mind of his own :D. Come on Ben, whip your politicians into shape with your decisions >:3

Edit: Also the more you complain about the features, the more likely this WON'T STAY FREEWARE. I'd shut my mouth and play with what I have >:(
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:38 am

TheSifodias wrote:No, what I'm saying is that the community needs to get together as a whole and decide on a feature instead of just complaining about a feature.
If you live in the U.S., imagine that the forum community is just the various political parties that are arguing against each other right now. Ben is the president/general of his army, forced to listen to the whims of every politic. However in our case, we also have other people: neutral citizens who just play the game, and the neutral branch, which keeps stability among politicians(a.k.a moderators).
Ben's in a rut right now. There's been a major political scandal due to a new law(feature) that has been passed right now. In order to keep the stability of Blocktania, he asks his political parties what they would like. The parties respond very differently, and Ben chooses the stronger party(the angrier crowd) and helps them out. However, due to this act, the other party is outraged, and Ben is forced into making another change to keep the peace. This goes on until the law is so severely changed it cannot even perform its original purpose.
Think of the two parties about today's democrats and republicans. Due to the way the government works, they are forced to compromise to create a law, which due to the differing opinions rarely ever passes. The same occurs in Blocktania.
Most people do not realize that neither party actually suggests the law, they just argue over it. However, the truth is that the law is actually first proposed by a loyal, neutral U.S. citizen, who is merely trying to take the actions toward a better U.S. government.
By deciding on ideas before their release(the suggestions sections) we can ensure that the said idea will not be so horrible that it will disrupt good gameplay.

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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Putin » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:13 pm

So you guys want 100% acc rifle then duck ? You will have 100% acc , makes the game fair not " rifle can have 100% acc and Smg can only be used at duck" .
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Frostified » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:22 pm

Rifle accuracy really needs to be sorted out.
When I hear the whack.wav sound, I think I've killed an enemy so I change target. But with the new rifle accuracy, you can get 'false-headshots': Headshots that registers client-side (by notification with the whack.wav) but doesn't register server-side (because your target is still alive).
I've been killed loads of times because of this minor/major frustration. And I find it stupid that although your crosshair is directly on their head, it still doesn't always get you a headshot.
Please go back to the 0.49 rifle ben, then we can end this madness.

For the other weapons:
Shotgun REALLY badly needs to be improved, I don't think I need to reapeat what the community says.
SMG can be left alone imo if the rifle get's it's accuracy back.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby ArvinLarn » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:23 pm

Frostified wrote:Rifle accuracy really needs to be sorted out.
When I hear the whack.wav sound, I think I've killed an enemy so I change target. But with the new rifle accuracy, you can get 'false-headshots': Headshots that registers client-side (by notification with the whack.wav) but doesn't register server-side (because your target is still alive).
I've been killed loads of times because of this minor/major frustration. And I find it stupid that although your crosshair is directly on their head, it still doesn't always get you a headshot.
Please go back to the 0.49 rifle ben, then we can end this madness.

For the other weapons:
Shotgun REALLY badly needs to be improved, I don't think I need to reapeat what the community says.
SMG can be left alone imo if the rifle get's it's accuracy back.


The problem with the 0.49 Rifle's 100% accuracy is the fact that there will be people who will start complaining about it once it is re-implemented. We've already been there before.

Honestly, I'm just going to shrug and go with whatever Ben's going to implement. I can kill people just fine with the Rifle's present accuracy.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Space101 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:08 pm

I'm pretty fucking amazed how nobody is really bashing the SMG, don't you guys remember when it was first buffed?
It still had a shit ton of recoil but not the recoil was heavy enough to discourage people to use it at long range, and It couldnt kill people with 2 shots to the head IIRC it was 3 shots for a headshot, which is totally fine considering it fires about 750-800 rpm.
Therefor I demand a refund, I didnt pay for this game to get headshotted everytime by the SMG.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Tek2 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:19 pm

Space101 wrote:I'm pretty fucking amazed how nobody is really bashing the SMG, don't you guys remember when it was first buffed?
It still had a shit ton of recoil but not the recoil was heavy enough to discourage people to use it at long range, and It couldnt kill people with 2 shots to the head IIRC it was 3 shots for a headshot, which is totally fine considering it fires about 750-800 rpm.
Therefor I demand a refund, I didnt pay for this game to get headshotted everytime by the SMG.

I'd say it's around 400 rpm, not 800.
Also it sucked pretty bad before the 0.70(IIRC) with such a slow time to kill.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Space101 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:22 pm

It could be lag Tek2 or fps drop(Packet loss , when the is Ben going to fix this? Douchebag.).
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Fluttershy » Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:53 pm

TheSifodias wrote:Think of the two parties about today's democrats and republicans. Due to the way the government works, they are forced to compromise to create a law, which due to the differing opinions rarely ever passes. The same occurs in Blocktania.
Most people do not realize that neither party actually suggests the law, they just argue over it. However, the truth is that the law is actually first proposed by a loyal, neutral U.S. citizen, who is merely trying to take the actions toward a better U.S. government.
By deciding on ideas before their release(the suggestions sections) we can ensure that the said idea will not be so horrible that it will disrupt good gameplay.


People will still bitch and moan, for example, if Ben were to currently put the three weapons up and ask how they should be changed, people will have absolutly no clue how to respond. However, more than likely, the likely answers that would come up the most are
a)restoring rifles accuracy
b)nerfing smg
c)making shotgun more reliable.

Despite having a majority rule, not everyone is happy as you said. So after collaborating people defined how the smg would be nerfed ever so slightly, rifle gaining a small portion of its accuracy back, and shotgun is just flat out ignored something because people just dont seem to give a shit about it right now. A lot of forumers agree to this and sign onto it and ben then implements it. He then releases .8 which is simply a update to reduce lag and rebalence the weapons. However, still not everyone is happy. Some people wanted rifle to be (for lack of a better word buffed), and others wanted it to be nerfed further. Likewise some wanted smg to stay the same, and others wanted it nerfed further. These people then make threads on the forums bringing us back to square one. However Ben decides to ignore them. We still have a bunch of unhappy people, and the only difference now is Ben is simply catering to the majority (actually wait, thats still the same) with no leeway.

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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby ChaosTLW » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:46 pm

Fluttershy wrote:
TheSifodias wrote:Think of the two parties about today's democrats and republicans. Due to the way the government works, they are forced to compromise to create a law, which due to the differing opinions rarely ever passes. The same occurs in Blocktania.
Most people do not realize that neither party actually suggests the law, they just argue over it. However, the truth is that the law is actually first proposed by a loyal, neutral U.S. citizen, who is merely trying to take the actions toward a better U.S. government.
By deciding on ideas before their release(the suggestions sections) we can ensure that the said idea will not be so horrible that it will disrupt good gameplay.


People will still bitch and moan, for example, if Ben were to currently put the three weapons up and ask how they should be changed, people will have absolutly no clue how to respond. However, more than likely, the likely answers that would come up the most are
a)restoring rifles accuracy
b)nerfing smg
c)making shotgun more reliable.

Despite having a majority rule, not everyone is happy as you said. So after collaborating people defined how the smg would be nerfed ever so slightly, rifle gaining a small portion of its accuracy back, and shotgun is just flat out ignored something because people just dont seem to give a shit about it right now. A lot of forumers agree to this and sign onto it and ben then implements it. He then releases .8 which is simply a update to reduce lag and rebalence the weapons. However, still not everyone is happy. Some people wanted rifle to be (for lack of a better word buffed), and others wanted it to be nerfed further. Likewise some wanted smg to stay the same, and others wanted it nerfed further. These people then make threads on the forums bringing us back to square one. However Ben decides to ignore them. We still have a bunch of unhappy people, and the only difference now is Ben is simply catering to the majority (actually wait, thats still the same) with no leeway.

The moral of the story, Everyone has different opinions. Putin is a wonderful example.


Exactly what I had in mind. A democracy isnt freedom and equality for everyone,it is the dictatorship of the majority. If 70% of a city votes for a law that, idk, makes homossexuality illegal or forces all of the jews to get out of town, the other 30 cant do nothing because the majority wants something.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby demo123 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:46 pm

I kinda got used to the new acuracy with the rifle.And its OK.But it pains me to see some one(That someone is a Site admin.) to make a thread like this:http://ace-spades.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=5019.

But yeah geting headshoted at a fog distance with a smg is fucking anoying.Shotgun is still a mistery to me.Since i dont use it.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby TheSifodias » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:39 pm

ChaosTLW wrote:
Fluttershy wrote:
TheSifodias wrote:Think of the two parties about today's democrats and republicans. Due to the way the government works, they are forced to compromise to create a law, which due to the differing opinions rarely ever passes. The same occurs in Blocktania.
Most people do not realize that neither party actually suggests the law, they just argue over it. However, the truth is that the law is actually first proposed by a loyal, neutral U.S. citizen, who is merely trying to take the actions toward a better U.S. government.
By deciding on ideas before their release(the suggestions sections) we can ensure that the said idea will not be so horrible that it will disrupt good gameplay.


People will still bitch and moan, for example, if Ben were to currently put the three weapons up and ask how they should be changed, people will have absolutly no clue how to respond. However, more than likely, the likely answers that would come up the most are
a)restoring rifles accuracy
b)nerfing smg
c)making shotgun more reliable.

Despite having a majority rule, not everyone is happy as you said. So after collaborating people defined how the smg would be nerfed ever so slightly, rifle gaining a small portion of its accuracy back, and shotgun is just flat out ignored something because people just dont seem to give a shit about it right now. A lot of forumers agree to this and sign onto it and ben then implements it. He then releases .8 which is simply a update to reduce lag and rebalence the weapons. However, still not everyone is happy. Some people wanted rifle to be (for lack of a better word buffed), and others wanted it to be nerfed further. Likewise some wanted smg to stay the same, and others wanted it nerfed further. These people then make threads on the forums bringing us back to square one. However Ben decides to ignore them. We still have a bunch of unhappy people, and the only difference now is Ben is simply catering to the majority (actually wait, thats still the same) with no leeway.

The moral of the story, Everyone has different opinions. Putin is a wonderful example.


Exactly what I had in mind. A democracy isnt freedom and equality for everyone,it is the dictatorship of the majority. If 70% of a city votes for a law that, idk, makes homossexuality illegal or forces all of the jews to get out of town, the other 30 cant do nothing because the majority wants something.



A) Is this government really a republican democracy or a pure democracy? Because I see neither. The people who really moan and complain are those forumers who don't fully understand the community, they just play the game. In my example, these are the "bad" non-voters.
B) Your voting problem is one of the things I would like to improve in this game. Members need to be more wise about their choices and how their votes will affect the game, just like those idiotic voters in the U.S. who only support the industrialist, rich, aristocrat political party because they don't know that there are better parties out there.
C) Chaos, in your example about the majority dictatorship, they only oppress such things like homosexuality and Jews because they are filled with the bias of one party. Because people are so gullible these days, political and social opinions can feed off of bias and stereotypes, making people support ideas for even the stupidest reasons.


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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby Fluttershy » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:28 pm

TheSifodias wrote:A) Is this government really a republican democracy or a pure democracy? Because I see neither. The people who really moan and complain are those forumers who don't fully understand the community, they just play the game. In my example, these are the "bad" non-voters.
B) Your voting problem is one of the things I would like to improve in this game. Members need to be more wise about their choices and how their votes will affect the game, just like those idiotic voters in the U.S. who only support the industrialist, rich, aristocrat political party because they don't know that there are better parties out there.


Which government are you referring to? Blocktonia is a flat out democracy. actually wait, Its a "we vote on some things, ben implements it, then some of us bitch about it, and on occasion Ben decides he wants to do something in his own game then some of us complain about that"

Our voting problem? Are you suggesting that you think you can through some miracle get everyone to agree on the same thing? Whatever, take me to your lizard. This game is in beta, people can usually only base their opinion on theories, it's not a bad thing to experiment and try things out.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby ChaosTLW » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:34 pm

TheSifodias wrote:A) Is this government really a republican democracy or a pure democracy? Because I see neither. The people who really moan and complain are those forumers who don't fully understand the community, they just play the game. In my example, these are the "bad" non-voters.
B) Your voting problem is one of the things I would like to improve in this game. Members need to be more wise about their choices and how their votes will affect the game, just like those idiotic voters in the U.S. who only support the industrialist, rich, aristocrat political party because they don't know that there are better parties out there.
C) Chaos, in your example about the majority dictatorship, they only oppress such things like homosexuality and Jews because they are filled with the bias of one party. Because people are so gullible these days, political and social opinions can feed off of bias and stereotypes, making people support ideas for even the stupidest reasons.


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It isnt limited just to that. If a law about stem-cell research passes because 75% of the people wants it, the other 25% wouldn't be happy but wouldn't get what it wants, because the majority approves that law about stem-cell research, be it allowing it or prohibiting it.
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Re: STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW ACCURACY!

Postby USABxBOOYO » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:35 pm

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