Sons of the Apocalypse [SotA] - International Brotherhood

[Kodiak]

I'd prefer all maps remain free-to-public too, just trying to help out and see if the opposite were possible for someone who might like this :P

[Fleischgeruch]

Hey bov. I just went on AoS Global Blacklist and found Kingjj right on the top, permabanned.
My condolences.

[bov930527]

Hey bov. I just went on AoS Global Blacklist and found Kingjj right on the top, permabanned.
My condolences.

Thank you. I also have two questions, one is just out of curiosity.

Did you go to the blacklist specifically to look if Kingjj is permabanned? Are you by any chance a psychic?
It states that he is permabanned from Minit US. Does it means he can't play the game at all? Like, any server?

Alright, I know what you're thinking "Wow, this guys wants to accept a cheater into his clan, just to get members, boohoho." I wont say that that is untrue, because half of it is. I do want to accept a cheater into my clan, but because I believe everyone deserves a second chance. And no, I don't mean a second chance to proove his "cheat-and-get-away-with-it" skills.

Call me naive if you'd like, but I do believe in the good that human nature has to offer. I know that, because I've been a pain in the rear for some communities. Now I regret it and wish I could go back and just not type certain things. I can't.

I believe that hate will only give birth to more hate. If everyone just calls the kid names, tells him he sucks, he's a dumb@ss, whatever. He then might cheat just cause of the anger and the will to revenge. I've experienced hate on the internet, and let me tell you. It hurts. It hurts for I know that people mean what they say. You see, in real life, we put on a mask. We walk in front of our enemies, and we fasten that smile on our faces greeting them "Goodday, how are you?" But on here, your screen is your mask. So why would anyone hide their trueselves, when noone needs to take responsibility for anything? They don't. Noone does.

In a weird way, this is why I trust internet. Here, when people say "I think you're awesome", they don't need to feel embaressment for been silly, and when they say "f*ck you!", they don't need to be afraid. This may sound crazy, but I believe that on internet forums 99% percent of people actually mean what they say, whilst they would never, ever have the guts to say it in real life. Here, people show you who they truly are. Even if they pull a lie, it would still be revealing their most sacred nature. So now's the question. Kingjj has shown his true self by cheating.

We all do mistakes. And I don't think that it helps spreading hate because someone cheated on an online game. If he'd be a rapist or a child molester, we'd be talking on a whoooole different level. (And how I know he isn't? Well. If he was, then cheating would be the last thing he'd do. He would not get himself hated. To the contrary, he would do everything to gain your respect and trust. He would come to you as a friend, not a hacker.)

I do not support hacking, but I f*ckin not support hate. As I've already covered up earlier, I believe that hate is real on the internet. And permanently banning someone is like telling someone "You are not worthy a sh*t, you mindless, hopeless fr*ak. You will never change or bring any good to the world. Go hang yourself."

What I fail to understand in the middle of this, this, "wikipedia generation" (as a great swedish comedian Magnus Betner puts it), all is, why do we ignore the things in real life that really deserve love, and really deserve hate during our days, and last to get on here, on the internet, just so that we could focus all our kindness towards objects so completely insignificant as a 3d resemblence of a city, and all our anger towards things so utterly pointless as geting shot on an online game called Ace of Spades by an aimbotter?

Perhaps I am too stupid, immature, or simply unenlighted. But I say this "F*ck it, I'm taking the guy in my clan anyway." If he cheats I'll kick him. But I wont hate him and at least he would have gotten his second chance. Because in the end of the day, who gives a sh*t, really? No I mean really?

[Sniper101]

Hey bov. I just went on AoS Global Blacklist and found Kingjj right on the top, permabanned.
My condolences.

Thank you. I also have two questions, one is just out of curiosity.

Did you go to the blacklist specifically to look if Kingjj is permabanned? Are you by any chance a psychic?
It states that he is permabanned from Minit US. Does it means he can't play the game at all? Like, any server?

Alright, I know what you're thinking "Wow, this guys wants to accept a cheater into his clan, just to get members, boohoho." I wont say that that is untrue, because half of it is. I do want to accept a cheater into my clan, but because I believe everyone deserves a second chance. And no, I don't mean a second chance to proove his "cheat-and-get-away-with-it" skills.

Call me naive if you'd like, but I do believe in the good that human nature has to offer. I know that, because I've been a pain in the rear for some communities. Now I regret it and wish I could go back and just not type certain things. I can't.

I believe that hate will only give birth to more hate. If everyone just calls the kid names, tells him he sucks, he's a dumb@ss, whatever. He then might cheat just cause of the anger and the will to revenge. I've experienced hate on the internet, and let me tell you. It hurts. It hurts for I know that people mean what they say. You see, in real life, we put on a mask. We walk in front of our enemies, and we fasten that smile on our faces greeting them "Goodday, how are you?" But on here, your screen is your mask. So why would anyone hide their trueselves, when noone needs to take responsibility for anything? They don't. Noone does.

In a weird way, this is why I trust internet. Here, when people say "I think you're awesome", they don't need to feel embaressment for been silly, and when they say "f*ck you!", they don't need to be afraid. This may sound crazy, but I believe that on internet forums 99% percent of people actually mean what they say, whilst they would never, ever have the guts to say it in real life. Here, people show you who they truly are. Even if they pull a lie, it would still be revealing their most sacred nature. So now's the question. Kingjj has shown his true self by cheating.

We all do mistakes. And I don't think that it helps spreading hate because someone cheated on an online game. If he'd be a rapist or a child molester, we'd be talking on a whoooole different level. (And how I know he isn't? Well. If he was, then cheating would be the last thing he'd do. He would not get himself hated. To the contrary, he would do everything to gain your respect and trust. He would come to you as a friend, not a hacker.)

I do not support hacking, but I f*ckin not support hate. As I've already covered up earlier, I believe that hate is real on the internet. And permanently banning someone is like telling someone "You are not worthy a sh*t, you mindless, hopeless fr*ak. You will never change or bring any good to the world. Go hang yourself."

What I fail to understand in the middle of this, this, "wikipedia generation" (as a great swedish comedian Magnus Betner puts it), all is, why do we ignore the things in real life that really deserve love, and really deserve hate during our days, and last to get on here, on the internet, just so that we could focus all our kindness towards objects so completely insignificant as a 3d resemblence of a city, and all our anger towards things so utterly pointless as geting shot on an online game called Ace of Spades by an aimbotter?

Perhaps I am too stupid, immature, or simply unenlighted. But I say this "F*ck it, I'm taking the guy in my clan anyway." If he cheats I'll kick him. But I wont hate him and at least he would have gotten his second chance. Because in the end of the day, who gives a sh*t, really? No I mean really?

AKA I'm kind, I'm going to give him a second chance. And I must say, that was the MOST wonderful piece of writing I have ever seen!

[Kodiak]

You are the most beautiful speech maker alive. Marry me.

[bov930527]

Thanks, Sniper and Kodiak (I guess?). Yea, well my main frustration with the AoS community is that there is soooooo much hatred over little things. Like people geting permabanned for using caps once in a while? I mean, com'on man! It's a free-to-play online game. People who use aimbot, they don't hit, rape and then p*ss on your mother. And those people from Poland who just can't seem to learn English, they're not stealing your bank account and all your financial fortune. So why so much hate?

And this was kind of the push over the edge that finally gave me a knock to wright some criticism against this entire behavior. If you guys look at the picture above, yea the one with a green fellow to the right and a blue one to the left, does it really say "Take me seriously"? Because that's what this community is doing in my honest opinion. I believe in fact that people in this community are angry with the game itself not meeting their expectations. And, instead of accusing themselves for been stupid due to having the wrong expectations people just do what is much easier to do, puting the blame on something else. Some put it on the game, others put it on the community.

And I just don't get this hatred. I enjoy the game for what it is. I don't even get angry with aimbotters, polaks, or people who spell caps all the time. I just don't see the point of it. It's just a game at the end of the day. And I'm not saying that people shouldn't care. What I am saying though, is that if you wish to care for something, care for justice, politics, religion, and wars. Not a friggin online game.

[Kodiak]

If you weren't occupied w/this clan I'd want you with the Komrades pronto, if you need anything at all, you need only ask.

[Fleischgeruch]

Woah woah easy on the keyboard there man.
Dayum, you make some fine points even though I'm not sure what or who is it for.
To answer your 1st question, I'm not a psychic even though that would be totally cool, I just go onto the GBL once in a while to check who's up there, what country they're from, do I know them or not. I honestly did not expect or hope to see Kingjj sitting there. And yes, if he's permabanned he can't play AoS on any server. He can still see the forums (I think) and apply for an appeal.
I also don't really see what caused your sudden burst of philosophy, even though it's quite interesting, and yes I tend to agree with everything said above. You should go forth, and spread your wisefulness to CoD players! (loljk). But really, who said anything about hating hackers, botters, griefers, being racist, etc.? All I did was inform you about Kingjj because I thought you could use that info asap. Don't get me wrong, the stuff said above is rather respectable
I said 'my condolences' because it would mean you would be back at step 1, with no members, which is really not what everyone here would like to see. Don't worry, you'll get more members, it's only a matter of time :D

[kingjj]

Woah woah easy on the keyboard there man.
Dayum, you make some fine points even though I'm not sure what or who is it for.
To answer your 1st question, I'm not a psychic even though that would be totally cool, I just go onto the GBL once in a while to check who's up there, what country they're from, do I know them or not. I honestly did not expect or hope to see Kingjj sitting there. And yes, if he's permabanned he can't play AoS on any server. He can still see the forums (I think) and apply for an appeal.
I also don't really see what caused your sudden burst of philosophy, even though it's quite interesting, and yes I tend to agree with everything said above. You should go forth, and spread your wisefulness to CoD players! (loljk). But really, who said anything about hating hackers, botters, griefers, being racist, etc.? All I did was inform you about Kingjj because I thought you could use that info asap. Don't get me wrong, the stuff said above is rather respectable
I said 'my condolences' because it would mean you would be back at step 1, with no members, which is really not what everyone here would like to see. Don't worry, you'll get more members, it's only a matter of time :D

I was mistaken for cheating due to lag. And you can see the forums when your perm banned from AoS. and my ban was lifted very shortly after i appealed. I have not cheated is my short answer. (I was mistaken for hacking into a god mode sort. It is impossible in fact to do that without admin or owning the server, Although it is possible to TP to flags and camps and players. I wont get more into it but god mode without admin/owner is impossible.)

[bov930527]

I have been sending some PMs around and hopefully they will solve some issues. But just to clarify it for everyone: these posts were not directed to Fleischgeruch or anyone else personally (except for the two questions in the beginning of the first long post). These are just some thoughts I've had lately about everything regarding social situation in servers and on forums.

I apologize if anyone may have taken these arguments "to heart", so to speak. They were not intentionally to target any specific person, just my own view on how I "experience" this community. I also thought that "taking a cheater into my clan" deserved a rather extensive explanation, because of the aggrandized odiousness towards cheaters here. I don't support cheating, but I don't wish for been called one. Hence, the walls of text.

[SLoW]

Bump for great justice.

Also, because you guys should all check this clan out, I think it has a lot of promise.

[Platinum]

I wish I could sign up for it. He seems like a great leader.

BUMP!

[bov930527]

Ight, I'm puting the server down for couple of days. Gonna improve the map, plus my comp needs a rest.

[Scipion]

Q#1. Is it within the realms of your linguistic ability to fully comprehend the query written on this very line? What I'm trying to get across is... YOU. ENGLISH. YES? NO?

Yes, I come from Croatia and english isn't my native language, but I think I'm more than capable to comprehend everything and even spell right at the same time which I find is a problem to many english speaking people on the internet.

Q#2. Do you like AoS? Is it a game that you will actually play in a week or two?
Yes, I've been actively playing AoS for 9 months now and even though I come across a week or two break every now and then I always return to it.

Q#3. What specialization would you like to have?
I would like to have a camper specialization, but I would be equally good as an attacker.

Q#4. What is your ingame name? You must inform me if you change it and what you change it to.
Scipion

Q#5. Do you know anything about hosting servers? Does your RL situation allow to host servers? If I need help to host a server, could you do that for me?
I don't know anything about hosting AoS server, but I'm a fast learner. Although, I doubt my 1.8 Ghz, 1GB RAM computer could do much.

Q#6. What's your native language? What languages do you master? I know four and a half (my German is a bit rusty), so perhaps you might talk to me in a different language than English, if you need help. But you still must be able to speak English. I know Russian, Ukranian, Swedish and as I sad, a bit of rusty German. So you can speak with me in those languages if you can't say something complicated in English. Even if you don't speak any of those, I would still like to know what languages you possess so that you may, if you wish off course, help the brotherhood within that area, if we'll ever need help.
I know Croatian which is my native language, English, rusty German, and Latin which I won't need ever in life.

Q#7. If you do play AoS frequently, at which times do you usually log in and how long are you online?
Depends when my school starts. I'm usually 1-3 hours online. I'm the same timezone as you though.

[bov930527]

Q#1. Is it within the realms of your linguistic ability to fully comprehend the query written on this very line? What I'm trying to get across is... YOU. ENGLISH. YES? NO?

Yes, I come from Croatia and english isn't my native language, but I think I'm more than capable to comprehend everything and even spell right at the same time which I find is a problem to many english speaking people on the internet.

Q#2. Do you like AoS? Is it a game that you will actually play in a week or two?
Yes, I've been actively playing AoS for 9 months now and even though I come across a week or two break every now and then I always return to it.

Q#3. What specialization would you like to have?
I would like to have a camper specialization, but I would be equally good as an attacker.

Q#4. What is your ingame name? You must inform me if you change it and what you change it to.
Scipion

Q#5. Do you know anything about hosting servers? Does your RL situation allow to host servers? If I need help to host a server, could you do that for me?
I don't know anything about hosting AoS server, but I'm a fast learner. Although, I doubt my 1.8 Ghz, 1GB RAM computer could do much.

Q#6. What's your native language? What languages do you master? I know four and a half (my German is a bit rusty), so perhaps you might talk to me in a different language than English, if you need help. But you still must be able to speak English. I know Russian, Ukranian, Swedish and as I sad, a bit of rusty German. So you can speak with me in those languages if you can't say something complicated in English. Even if you don't speak any of those, I would still like to know what languages you possess so that you may, if you wish off course, help the brotherhood within that area, if we'll ever need help.
I know Croatian which is my native language, English, rusty German, and Latin which I won't need ever in life.

Q#7. If you do play AoS frequently, at which times do you usually log in and how long are you online?
Depends when my school starts. I'm usually 1-3 hours online. I'm the same timezone as you though.

Alright then, I thank you for answering the questions and let you know that I accept you! Yaay! You will be gaining more information by a PM from me soon.

And another thing, I've recently found out that "sota" means "war/warfare" in finnish. How cool is that? I mean, that's like a major coincidence.

Also, thank you Fleisch for recommending this clan to Scipion.

EDIT: I have also finished a command tree. It's the second post in this thread.