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Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby Gorman » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:58 am

SIMOX wrote:
Gorman wrote:Dynamic crosshair is one of the silliest features ever. The gun always shoots at where it is pointed, moving it fast does not magically make the gun less accurate.

It makes YOU less accurate not the weapon. One does not simply understand the simple logic.
There's Dynamic Crosshair in Counter-strike so what? Ppl shoot those AVP's like pro's.

Huh? I thought dynamic crosshair is the one which expands to show the scatter of the bullets, so when you are moving there is more scatter (ie more luck based, the gun becomes less accurate not the player).

What are you talking about?
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby CalenLoki » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:20 am

IRL bullet fly where barrel and ironsights are pointing, because such thing as crosshair floating at point where gun is aimed doesn't exist (unless you have laser pointer). Imagine dynamic crosshair as weapon wobbling that can't be seen by the gunner, "drunk gun" with static crosshair indicating where +- you wish to aim. It's firing from the hip after all.
It can't be done the same way in ironsights mode - there we need either sights or vision wobbling.
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby Gorman » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:48 am

It is clearly implied that the crosshair is where the gun is pointing.

Besides that as I said I will not approve of any luck-based mechanics. AoS is a game of skill, not a digital Russian-roulette.
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby thedoctor1212 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:23 pm

SIMOX said;
'What I'm talking about is Dynamic Crosshair.
Run=sh*t accuracy
Walk=Better
Stand=Good
Crouched=Perfect'

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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby SnaJperME » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:48 pm

SIMOX wrote:'What I'm talking about is Dynamic Crosshair.
Run=sh*t accuracy
Walk=Better
Stand=Good
Crouched=Perfect'


Hallelujah ! Finally someone is normal here .
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby Dblz » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:20 pm

'What I'm talking about is Dynamic Crosshair.
Run=sh*t accuracy
Walk=Better
Stand=Good
Crouched=Perfect'


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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby Frostified » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:25 am

Um guysm I think SIMOX is talking about what the rifle is like currently.
Anyway, I think the rifle should be left as it is. The common saying around here for you "Rifle Whiners" (OP) is:
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby SIMOX » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:35 am

Nah currently it's very accurate. Note that i just suggesting an alternative to the OP. I'm ok with the rifle as it is since I can wipe out group of ppl in seconds. Depends sometimes on the opponents but the last time I played green guys were pretty weak.
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby DarkDXZ » Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:01 pm

Nope.avi.mp3.txt.dts.nah.why.rly

Shotgun got buffed
SMG got buffed
Rifle got nerfed?

With this, a headshot would be a NEED if you use a rifle or else somebody will make you a Switzer cheese with a SMG or a pile of flesh with a shotgun...


If you're REALLY going to slow it down, it should have SLIGHTLY better ironsight (not too much, but ~0.25)...
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby outwrangle » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:36 pm

Are all the weapons being used? Yes?

Then why do we need to change anything?
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby nam3sbOb » Mon May 21, 2012 12:26 am

No need to nerf.....I have had plenty of people kill me using smg or sg when I was using the supposedly "rapid-fire" rifle. If you think it is so good, why in the hell WOULDNT you use it?
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby DrunkenChild » Mon May 21, 2012 2:56 am

It has been nerfed and evry one is fliping the duck out. I frankly dont give a fucking rats ass shit, but, Im still great with it so I dont care as stated right ^ here
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby MrHaaaaaaxFF » Mon May 21, 2012 3:41 am

Rifle currently no need for nerf. You guys probaly just too n00b-ish at the game :P
SMG is already supperior(poor shotty) to rifle in all ranges, nerfing it would get worse. SMG IS the one needs a nerf.
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby VilgO » Mon May 21, 2012 11:42 am

My vision on how the rifle must be changed:
1) Increase body damage;
2) Decrease rate of fire;
3) Decrease accuracy when not scoped.
4) (maybe - no headshots when not scoped, instead of decreasing accuracy)

Luck factor is not something we need to eliminate. Thinking person will just avoid situations when he needs luck to win, while skilled idiot will just rush and die.
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Re: Nerf the Rifle. Slow it down.

Postby Varun » Mon May 21, 2012 11:49 am

SIMOX wrote:Nah currently it's very accurate. Note that i just suggesting an alternative to the OP. I'm ok with the rifle as it is since I can wipe out group of ppl in seconds. Depends sometimes on the opponents but the last time I played green guys were pretty weak.


Also @VIlgo, I would agree with you except for Number 4. I use the rifle at close range no scope to tackle smgers. Making it noscope would basically give you no chance of beating a smger at close range. The rifle does NOT need a nerf, but its fairly ok how it is now. The smg could do with a slight nerf IMHO.
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