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{RS} Ideas and Suggestions

We are the Renegade Snipers, a clan created back in 2010 by bigdlb (aka Yuri). We are a friendly clan who like to hang out with our clan-mates. We are a hard working team and we are very competitive. We don't aim to be the best in the Ace of Spades community, but we do want to leave a lasting impression. At times we may seem strict in recruitment, but that's our way of finding skillful AoS players worthy enough of joining.

Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby C1ark » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:35 pm

Varun wrote:Thugz is sort of a middle rank, despite leaning towards skill. How about this. Applications for Muscle Team? Minimum clan duration of one month, and minimum rank of Thugz-4-Hire.

1 month. I guess. Approval from all Leaders & maximum people who say No - 3.

So, After someone has been a member for 1 Month & Achieved Thugz-4-Hire. He can apply. After they´ve applied. There is a 1 week voting period. During, What everyone votes either Yes or No - Everyone has to have a reason for the vote. Voting isn´t required, But highly recommended. All leaders have to vote Yes . More than 3 members can be against it. After that they will have a sort of "Trial period" of 3 Months. They will be Muscle Team. But, Any complaints will be addressed & They won´t be fully trusted.

After the 3 Months they will Finally get to be a true Muscle Team Member.


Muscle Team is pretty much the highest rank a new member can reach. So, It should be exclusive. All of its members should be loved by all.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby ThisFrickinSite » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:49 pm

How about liked instead of loved?
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby C1ark » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:32 am

ThisFrickinSite wrote:How about liked instead of loved?

I guess that´ll be fine.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby kickbutt101 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:49 am

C1ark wrote:
ThisFrickinSite wrote:How about liked instead of loved?

I guess that´ll be fine.


But i liked loved :3
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Varun » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:23 am

Ok, here is what I think. I'm basing it on what C1ark said, but with slightly less democracy.

    The applicant must be part of the clan for a minimum of two months, and must hold the rank of Thugz-4-Hire at the time of the application for a minimum of two weeks.

    Once said applicant has posted his application, it will be up to the leaders to make the final decision. However, any and all the clans members may have their say in the matter. But! We are not here to discuss a person's pros and cons in public. Therefore, any clan members who have concerns about the promotion, be it for or against the notion, may pm any one of the clan leaders. Any member who ignores this rule and airs the applicant's dirty linen in public will be will be ignored, and their post will be deleted.

    Once one week has passed, and the pm's (If any) have been read through and discussed, we will notify the applicant that they have been accepted for the rank on a trial basis, the duration of which will be a minimum of two weeks, though it is subject to lengthening of up to two months.

    If any complaints are heard from anyone about this character, and sufficient proof has been submitted, the applicant's misdemeanour will be addressed, with the punishment reflecting the severity of the action. Punishments include demotion and, in severe cases, expulsion from the clan.

Ok, so you see that I've removed the idea of voting. This is because we want to keep a person's privacy, unless, of course, the severity of their crimes warrants the Name and Shame punishment. I also don't want voting because anyone can vote. Anyone, including people outside the clan. And, if we in some way managed to make a poll of some kind that only RS members could vote in, there would be the problems of jealousy and ignorance. Jealousy is self-explanatory, but what I mean by ignorance is that supposing a person who had just been accepted into the clan and/or does not now the person voted, either for or against, it would not be a fair vote. And if someone wanted to ruin the person's chances of acceptance, they could just bluff, and we would find it hard to know any better.

Its still democratic, but in a safer way, not to mention less embarrassing for the people concerned.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Quikc » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:07 am

3 weeks for Thug.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby C1ark » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:10 am

Varun wrote:Ok, here is what I think. I'm basing it on what C1ark said, but with slightly less democracy.

    The applicant must be part of the clan for a minimum of two months, and must hold the rank of Thugz-4-Hire at the time of the application for a minimum of two weeks.

    Once said applicant has posted his application, it will be up to the leaders to make the final decision. However, any and all the clans members may have their say in the matter. But! We are not here to discuss a person's pros and cons in public. Therefore, any clan members who have concerns about the promotion, be it for or against the notion, may pm any one of the clan leaders. Any member who ignores this rule and airs the applicant's dirty linen in public will be will be ignored, and their post will be deleted.

    Once one week has passed, and the pm's (If any) have been read through and discussed, we will notify the applicant that they have been accepted for the rank on a trial basis, the duration of which will be a minimum of two weeks, though it is subject to lengthening of up to two months.

    If any complaints are heard from anyone about this character, and sufficient proof has been submitted, the applicant's misdemeanour will be addressed, with the punishment reflecting the severity of the action. Punishments include demotion and, in severe cases, expulsion from the clan.

Ok, so you see that I've removed the idea of voting. This is because we want to keep a person's privacy, unless, of course, the severity of their crimes warrants the Name and Shame punishment. I also don't want voting because anyone can vote. Anyone, including people outside the clan. And, if we in some way managed to make a poll of some kind that only RS members could vote in, there would be the problems of jealousy and ignorance. Jealousy is self-explanatory, but what I mean by ignorance is that supposing a person who had just been accepted into the clan and/or does not now the person voted, either for or against, it would not be a fair vote. And if someone wanted to ruin the person's chances of acceptance, they could just bluff, and we would find it hard to know any better.

Its still democratic, but in a safer way, not to mention less embarrassing for the people concerned.


I also don't want voting because anyone can vote.

People, Post on the forums....How, Would they fake being a RS member. Without hacking into another account which in most states/countries is punishable by like 5 years in prison.

Embarrasement is needed. To avoid jealusy based votes. They would have to state why they voted against. Which would obviously either be a fake reason which the leaders would investigate and find fraudulent. Or, They wont vote at all. Ignorance isnt a issue. If they don't vote. That doesn't change anything. If they vote against they have to provide a reason. If they vote for a person. Its their right to do so. The person being voted. Its sorta like with a election. Its up to them, To make sure everyone knows they are better, What they have done that's great, That a vote does exist & That they should vote.

This is because we want to keep a person's privacy,


Ther person being the one who is being voted. Well, He is stepping on a podium. He wants the attention. He isnt hiding in the shadows. If he is declined and kicked. A reason has to be shown. Its simple. Also, If they have made it so far & Have to be kicked. Its probably in severity of requiring rotten tomato throwing.

They could bluff with what? Say they have bomb they´d blow up. They need solid evidence. If there is none. The leaders would find out.

I DEMAND a democratic vote.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Quikc » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:15 am

We could have a vote. 2 weeks, 3 weeks or 4 weeks for Thug.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby C1ark » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:19 am

Quikc wrote:We could have a vote. 2 weeks, 3 weeks or 4 weeks for Thug.

We are talking about a vote to get into muscle team.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Ryu » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:02 pm

Oh.I feel abit sad now after reading all this.;(I thought Muscle team was the perfect rank for me becuase its a skill based rank but to actually apply for muscle team you need to be thugz which is a pain becuase cant find anything that I can do to help RS.(Also I have quit modding due to me getting serious with baseball.I have made it in the squad which consists 36players and I need to train harder so I can be in the team which had 16 players)

EDIT:I feel completly feel useless,nothing to do maybe I should just quit clans and fly solo.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby C1ark » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:26 pm

Ryu wrote:Oh.I feel abit sad now after reading all this.;(I thought Muscle team was the perfect rank for me becuase its a skill based rank but to actually apply for muscle team you need to be thugz which is a pain becuase cant find anything that I can do to help RS.(Also I have quit modding due to me getting serious with baseball.I have made it in the squad which consists 36players and I need to train harder so I can be in the team which had 16 players)

EDIT:I feel completly feel useless,nothing to do maybe I should just quit clans and fly solo.

Don´t be like that. You might not be able to help. But, You can still be a good member & take part in stuff. If you want to learn to do the stuff i do you could just ask. Im sure otherw are also happy to show you how they do they´re stuff. Everyone needs a active member to help them.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Varun » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:33 pm

And, you don't get into the higher ranks just by helping. Being active, positive, and a general good guy helps. Duration in the clan also helps. Thugz isn't too far away. When we next have a clan match, you can take part, and then you'll get more attention. Fear not.

Also, C1ark I sort of agree with your points except for one. Do you mean an actual poll, or just people posting to vouch/anti vouch? Because anyone can vote in a poll. Anyone from anywhere.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby C1ark » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:49 pm

Varun wrote:And, you don't get into the higher ranks just by helping. Being active, positive, and a general good guy helps. Duration in the clan also helps. Thugz isn't too far away. When we next have a clan match, you can take part, and then you'll get more attention. Fear not.

Also, C1ark I sort of agree with your points except for one. Do you mean an actual poll, or just people posting to vouch/anti vouch? Because anyone can vote in a poll. Anyone from anywhere.

Polls are stupid. Of course a thread where people reply.
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Quikc » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:00 am

How do make a poll on the top of the topic? o.o Varun?
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Re: {RS} Ideas and Suggestions

Postby Quikc » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:05 am

Alex, that was completely irrelevant -_-
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